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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    he does have a point about indirect tax burdens though... such as the taxes on medical devices, pharmaceuticals, and other stuff that will be felt indirectly ( as we all know those taxes will be passed onto to the consumers)
    Say what?? What increase of taxes is there on medical devices and other medical stuff that you seem to believe will be passed on to the consumer??

    And Why would medical costs go up? The medical industry in about to get a raise. No longer will there be masses of people running to emergency rooms for every complaint and then stiffing the hospital on the bill. Now the hospitals will collect on those bills.
    If anything, this should lower costs; though in reality, almost nothing comes down in price, so I'm not expecting that.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I hope to God they can do it.
    I hadn't really committed to voting for anyone with an R behind their name this year, but today confirms that I will.
    Meh. The problem is that the people with the R behind their name refuse to offer any better solutions. Shouting, "repeal, repeal, repeal" is not the same as fixing health care. It amazes me to watch everyone rehash the same debate from 2010.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758, 1205]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    you missed the 15k new IRS agents authorized by Obamacare, right?

    Cova yo head, yo.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Seriously people, fact check...

    FactCheck.org : IRS Expansion
    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    "The law does make individuals subject to a tax, starting in 2014, if they fail to obtain health insurance coverage. "


    That's your own link, homey.
    You can't be doing this by accident, it has to be intentional. Have a claim debunked, and act like you made some entirely unrelated claim.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758, 1205]

    I'm just thouroughly amazed at the fact the the SCOTUS only approved the bill's constitutionality under congress' right to tax and yet the far lefties here want to still claim that it is not a tax.


    The cognitive dissonance is astounding.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    And the majority of those $200 to $250K "individuals" are small businesses where the owner files the business under individual tax returns. Which means that if that owner actually makes say $50K and the business did $150k then you are hitting the middle class, and small business at the same time....Congradulations.
    Wait! Wait! ....... I haven't stopped laughing over your post on DEATH PANELS!!!



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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Already debunked: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ase-us-histor/

    Repeating the same failed talking point does not make it true.
    Mark Hemmingway did a good job explaining why liberal supposed fact checkers like 'FactCheck' are nothing but propaganda shills for Obama...

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758, 1205]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I'm just thouroughly amazed at the fact the the SCOTUS only approved the bill's constitutionality under congress' right to tax and yet the far lefties here want to still claim that it is not a tax.


    The cognitive dissonance is astounding.
    Who is claiming it is not a tax? Just because all your talking points have been shown to be lies and you have proven you can't follow a conversation does not mean you should just make **** up.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758, 1205]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You can't be doing this by accident, it has to be intentional. Have a claim debunked, and act like you made some entirely unrelated claim.
    What claim is debunked? My claim that no new tax is involved? The individual mandate survived on the Congress' right to tax. Come on dude, you ain't that ignorant.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758, 1205]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Who is claiming it is not a tax? Just because all your talking points have been shown to be lies and you have proven you can't follow a conversation does not mean you should just make **** up.
    Obama.


    He claimed there was no new tax.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Mark Hemmingway did a good job explaining why liberal supposed fact checkers like 'FactCheck' are nothing but propaganda shills for Obama...

    Lies, Damned Lies, and
    Do you have any idea just how incredibly ****ing ridiculous citing a Weekly Standard editorial to prove liberal bias is? I know why conservatives are so scared of fact checking. It is because the facts all support liberal positions.
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