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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758, 1205]

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Now that my insurance company has me locked in as a customer, what is it that prevents them from raising their rates?

    The last refuge consumers have against monopolistic pricing is that, difficult though it may be, one can technically go without the good or service. But if you have both a monopolistic pricing scenario AND the IRS standing over you telling you to pay, what keeps the insurance companies from jacking their rates further?
    Now, this is the best argument I've heard about potential price manipulation by health insurance companies as a direct result of the extra incentive they'd have to price gouge due to the SC upholding ObamaCare as constitutional. But you know what? This just means that those who have argued for a "free market system" truly should rethink who they should hold accountable for price increases. By your logic, it is the insurance industry not Congress or the Supreme Court that should be held in contempt should insurance premiums increase exponentially in the wake of the SC ruling.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Maybe the recognition that because a country is slightly less f*d up in one area doesn't mean the country is any less f*d up.
    No where was I even talking about the country. We're talking about the healthcare. Why leap off topic?

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    If you're freaking out about the Affordable Care Act, then I suggest that Poland might not be to your liking:
    The fact is that there is no civilized country in the world that doesn't have a health care system that's more nationalized than ours.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Correct. It takes skill, and height. Ask Lady GaGa.
    Hear Hear!!!

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    A whole bunch of your left wing buddies thought there were WMD my Monday Morning QB friend including "Slick Willie" Clinton.........
    Cries a member of the "personal responsibility" crowd.

    Oh, by the way ... Only one person on the planet is responsible for sending our troops into harms way over WMD that I'm still waiting to be found ...


    "As president I am responsible for the decision to go into Iraq." ~ George Bush, 12.14.2005

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No where was I even talking about the country. We're talking about the healthcare. Why leap off topic?
    Because you're talking about it in a vacuum. Cuba's healthcare does not define Cuba. But hey, if you want "free" healthcare....by all means, move to Cuba.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I would not hold my breath on that........You gotta pay for all those 40,000,000 uninsured my left wing friend...
    So when does it go up? "Wait for it" is not an answer. What's your answer?

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    So when does it go up? "Wait for it" is not an answer. What's your answer?
    April 14th....
    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Keep thinking it and get back to me in a few months.
    That's along the same lines as some were saying when Obama was running the first time -- how if we elect him, our taxes are going up -- but then he voted to extend the Bush tax cuts, making them all wrong. Why should I believe any of y'all now?

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Because you're talking about it in a vacuum. Cuba's healthcare does not define Cuba. But hey, if you want "free" healthcare....by all means, move to Cuba.
    That would be true if we were comparing political systems. We're not. The discussion was simply about healthcare quality. I can admire and like the way OJ played football, and not like him as a person.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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