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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not in competence, which is what we were discussing. And they don't handle some problems. They have not made healthcare affordable for the working poor. Nor have insurance companies. We pay a lot, and leave a lot of people outside looking in, passing on costs to you and me.

    I've purchased HC for years and have had several surgeries and am very, very pleased with my purchase. So I have to disagree with you.

    There are better ways than what Obama and the Dems and the Supremes okayed today, IMO. We are not going to agree on this.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Come on Redress if this had been a 5-4 vote with Kennedy deciding Liberal would have been all over it saying the Court is a Conservative court.......The silence is deafening on that now from the left..............By saying it is a tax then it gives Conservatives a huge out on the issue....
    No one has been saying that it is a "conservative court". If anything, it is 1/2 moderate and 1/2 conservative.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I thought when he was running Hussein Obama said no tax hikes for the middle class............Well who does he think is going to pay for the huge tax increase caused by Obama Care.......The biggest tax increase in the history of this country.............Remember this you people who are undecided when you go to the polls in November......
    Remember when you go to the polls that both Dems and Repubs in Washington - all the way down to the little City Councilmen across the country - don't forget that they'll both rob you blind. They have for about 232 years.

    Keep buying the propaganda, Navy....the Dems and Repubs love ya all the way to the bank.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No, what was sad is that you are apparently an adult and didn't know the difference between a credit and deduction. You can move the goal posts all you want but I can still see you.
    No goal posts have been moved and tax credits do not always work the way you apparently believe they do. There's a very good chance I've been a tax paying adult for far longer than you have and if you were honest, until it was brought up here, you had no knowledge that there were provisions to cope with advanced payments in the bill.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    As for the other contentions:

    1. You don't have to pay a full year's premium up front. It's billed monthly.
    Try reading what I posted. Didn't say one had to pay the annual rate.

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    2. The Act provides for advanced credit so eligible individuals don't have to wait until April 15 to get the money.

    Health Care Reform Primer: Getting Tax Credits and Cost-Sharing Reductions in Advance - Ask Tim
    Perhaps you should read your own link. Here you're asking a government that can't even run an effective eVerify system to predict future income and communicate that to the state in a timely enough manner for it to make a bit of difference. Not to mention the new bureaucracies it requires to be cobbled together by both the states and the feds.

    Oh yeah, that's going to work </sarcasm>

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Nope, no contradiction there at all.....you are simultaneously paying and not paying the private sector for your ins.

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    Well I'm not paying the private sector from my pocket. Nor can the private sector tax me for bull**** programs and redudant govt agencies.
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    Of course they charge me for services I choose to purchase. The private sector, IMO, is heads above the govt.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No one has been saying that it is a "conservative court". If anything, it is 1/2 moderate and 1/2 conservative.
    There are 9 justices on the Supreme Court. Is this liberal math?
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    He said the Mandate wasn't a tax. Then his lawyers went to court and argued that the Mandate wasn't a tax. Obama wanted it both ways.

    What's important now is to salvage what conservatives can from this liberal victory. Under the terms of existing American political culture the smart political thing is to fan the flames of resentment and grievance especially among white seniors. Doing so will result in some modicum of political advantage. This is the only thing that matters in America any more. I wish this weren't true, but I can't change reality. So it makes sense to play the game no matter what the consequences to the country. I know this will hurt the country, but both sides do this. It doesn't make sense to disarm unilaterally.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    We have poor now. And Cuba has actually made positive strides last I heard. However, we can do better. A single payer system is not one size fits all. Now, we can demonize and do the silly ass dance we've done for decades, or we can have an honest conversation and try to craft something better than what we have.
    OMG. Positive strides? Cuba is the least democratic Country on earth.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I thought when he was running Hussein Obama said no tax hikes for the middle class............Well who does he think is going to pay for the huge tax increase caused by Obama Care.......The biggest tax increase in the history of this country.............Remember this you people who are undecided when you go to the polls in November......
    My taxes have not gone up. But I'll take your advice and consider that when I vote in November.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No one has been saying that it is a "conservative court". If anything, it is 1/2 moderate and 1/2 conservative.
    Your daddy Hussein Obama all but said it was if they had ruled against him......Catch up DD.
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