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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    This Supreme Court decision will be characterized as a huge victory for Obama and a major defeat for white seniors.
    Yes, yes, you've already said this earlier today.

    We get it, we get it... White people good, black man bad.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    This Supreme Court decision will be characterized as a huge victory for Obama and a major defeat for white seniors.
    LOL....those pitchforks and torches are not materializing.....
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You have got to be joking.....It's on tape.....

    Did someone say, 'tape'?

    I've got the tape right here:


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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Smart politics = dishonesty and misinformation.

    Thank you, Sean Hannity.
    I'm not Sean Hannity. I oppose the death penalty and support civil rights for LGBTQ people. He doesn't.

    America is a Kingdom of Lies. I didn't make the rules. But I'm going to play by the rules. That means I take a partial truth and use it to stoke resentment and fury for purposes of achieving political advantage. Both Democrats and Republicans do that. It's the way the political system works.

    Your victory in the Supreme Court today can be used to galvanize opposition to you as it was done in 2010. That's the way things work now.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The logic completely fails to follow. In point of fact, quick google search says 2/3 of the middle class have insurance through their employer.
    ...which leaves a huge proportion, 1/3 of the middle class.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Again, according to the decision it is a tax. It was upheld as a tax. Calling it anything else the justices would not have upheld it (other than Bader-Ginsberg). Read the decision.
    You can call it zippity do da for all I care. What it is is a tax penalty. You only pay the penalty if you fail to comply with the law. It's permissible under the constitution because tax penalties are within Congress' taxing power.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Smart politics = dishonesty and misinformation.

    Thank you, MSNBC.

    There, now it is a correct statement.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Congress can enact things which it says aren't a tax, but then litigate the issue by claiming it is a tax. How's that for transparency?
    How's that for semantics? Whether you call it a tx or a penalty, it does exactly the same thing. No one has ever tried to hide what it does.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post

    America is a Kingdom of Lies. I didn't make the rules. But I'm going to play by the rules. That means I take a partial truth and use it to stoke resentment and fury for purposes of achieving political advantage. Both Democrats and Republicans do that. It's the way the political system works.

    Should we make the above statement our new pledge of allegiance?

    Just change 'I" to 'We' and you're gold.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You can call it zippity do da for all I care. What it is is a tax penalty. You only pay the penalty if you fail to comply with the law. It's permissible under the constitution because tax penalties are within Congress' taxing power.

    What is was, was a ****ty little lie, like everything else that comes from the band of criminals in power now.
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