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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I didn't quote a comment. I will now though, as a result of your impetuosity:
    Actually you did: http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1060635752


    “The question is not whether that is the most natural interpretation of the mandate, but only whether it is a ‘fairly possible’ one . . . . As we have explained, ‘every reasonable construction must be resorted to, in order to save a statute from unconstitutionality.’ . . . . The Government asks us to interpret the mandate as imposing a tax, if it would otherwise violate the Constitution. Granting the Act the full measure of deference owed to federal statutes, it can be so read, for the reasons set forth below . . . .
    “The Affordable Care Act’s requirement that certain individuals pay a financial penalty for not obtaining health insurance may reasonably be characterized as a tax. Because the Constitution permits such a tax, it is not our role to forbid it, or to pass upon its wisdom or fairness.”

    Health care decision: Key quotes from the ruling - Tim Grieve - POLITICO.com

    edit: you said "my quote" and I read "a quote." Regardless, the quote provided proves your lack of understanding.
    Hey, that is not what you claimed he said.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Alright, so where does a person ignorant of the details regarding this movement go to get some basic knowledge?

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Obama didn't call it a tax. SCOTUS chose to call it a tax today, which was not Obama's decision.

    you hold Obama responsible for SCOTUS' decision today?

    its not really a tax, as taxes are not punitive.
    The attorney arguing the case before the Supreme Court did indeed argue it under the Congress' right to tax. You are lieing.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I corrected my statement. You are overzealous.

    Hey, that is not what you claimed he said.
    It is exactly what I claimed. The mandate was upheld under congress' right to tax and under no other right.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Obama didn't call it a tax. SCOTUS chose to call it a tax today, which was not Obama's decision.

    you hold Obama responsible for SCOTUS' decision today?

    its not really a tax, as taxes are not punitive.
    We're going to have to agree to disagree.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    We're going to have to agree to disagree.
    when did Obama EVER call the penalty, a tax?

    when did they argue before the SCOTUS, that its a tax and they have the power to tax?

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Obama didn't call it a tax. SCOTUS chose to call it a tax today, which was not Obama's decision.

    you hold Obama responsible for SCOTUS' decision today?

    its not really a tax, as taxes are not punitive.
    Again, according to the decision it is a tax. It was upheld as a tax. Calling it anything else the justices would not have upheld it (other than Bader-Ginsberg). Read the decision.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Going forward this is no longer "Obamacare" it heretofore should be called Obama's Health Care Tax.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Huh? Wha...?

    That is some fancy dancing....please....explain.

    Nah, I can't possibly dance and spin at your level. Thanks.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    when did Obama EVER call the penalty, a tax?

    when did they argue before the SCOTUS, that its a tax and they have the power to tax?
    To answer your question - in the oral arguments before the court. That's where they argued the mandate should be allowed as they have the power to tax.

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