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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    the penalty is in the form of a fee....but SCOTUS chose to call it a tax.

    that's their choice.
    T or F: Direct taxes not based on population are unconstitutional.

    T or F: A "tax" levied directly on an individual, conditional on purchasing something from a company, is a direct tax not based on population.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i completed graduate school that year. jobs previous to that year did not offer health insurance, so i was covered on my parents' plan before 1999.
    Cool, and I apologise for ribbing you about it. Just thought it was kinda cute, I'm in that mood, the grandkids just stopped by for a moment.

    I joined the workforce in 63 at the age of 12 (had to file for a SS number - they didn't give them at birth then).

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i'm sure that the amount varies between plans. since getting burned by an HMO that tried to get out of paying an emergency room bill when i was in respiratory arrest because i panicked and went to the emergency room when i couldn't breathe instead of calling my doctor at 2 am to get him to refer me to the emergency room, i generally buy the best plan i can get.

    if my parents hadn't had a little clout with the hospital, i would have been totally screwed, and the emergency room bill would have cost around $1,500 with the HMO paying zero. there's something wrong with that.
    I agree, that does suck. I found a policy that fits my needs and my budget. But then I had a leg up on the discovery process, after teaching I went into nursing, so I knew what to look for in a policy.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    SCOTUS chose to call it a tax, not Obama.

    its not really a tax, as taxes are not supposed to be punitive. SCOTUS has quite an imagination.
    By declaring it a tax the court avoided giving Congress the dreaded "new power". It was quite carefully thought out I think.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Have you lost your limited ability to reason? The individual mandate was upheld due to congress' right to tax.

    It's pretty simple....unless of course, you don't understand the individual mandate.
    I was talking about what Roberts actually said. Where you then talking about some other thing that had nothing to do with my comment you quoted?
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    Well I'm not paying the private sector from my pocket. Nor can the private sector tax me for bull**** programs and redudant govt agencies.
    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    Of course they charge me for services I choose to purchase. The private sector, IMO, is heads above the govt.
    Huh? Wha...?

    That is some fancy dancing....please....explain.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post


    So should Obama lose the election for lying?
    So you are claiming the middle class is uninsured?
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    the penalty is in the form of a fee....but SCOTUS chose to call it a tax.

    that's their choice.
    Nooooo. The SCOTUS ruled it was a tax, and upheld it as such - and only as such. Read the majority decision.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Question: if you are self-employed, how does ACA help you pay for health insurance?

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Or maybe he was replaced by a replicant. That is even more likely.
    Redress, come on...I leave you alone. Please leave me alone.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Question: if you are self-employed, how does ACA help you pay for health insurance?
    How do you mean? If it is like Mass, depending on your income you can receive discounts.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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