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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    So I take it with 800+ replies we get conservatives who are lambasting the Justices for getting the constitution or the shape of government wrong while they hailed the sense of the decisions coming beforehand like campaign finance.
    The court upheld a long standing principle of corporate citizenship on the finance issue, long before that decision the government held that corporations were made up of people so they had the rights of such. I don't agree or disagree with that ruling, it was a restate of a long standing legal position.
    Then liberals here must be praising the court for its sensibility over the shape of government after calling into question their legitimacy regarding such matters as campaign finance.
    The big problem here is that on one hand the constitution was upheld but on the other a back door was just created to invalidate the rights upheld.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    It is exactly what Roberts said. If you don't buy insurance, you get taxed. That's it in a nutshell.
    You can show me the quote then. If not, then you are making **** up.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by vendur View Post
    What the hell are you talking about; that's exactly what is happening.
    NO, it isn't. Sorry.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    I wonder if Chief Justice Roberts was intimidated by liberal threats to delegitimize the Supreme Court? That's the new meme.
    Or maybe he was replaced by a replicant. That is even more likely.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Government is no more inept than anyone else. I run into a lot in the private sector who are far more inept, and yet they stay in business (one more talking to someone in India and I'm going eight grade).

    And frankly, the government has done some things very well. The world really is better today, and government holds some of the credit for that (not all by any means). It has really just become cliche and overused to complain about government competence. And we can hold them accountable. We may not choose to, but we can.

    Well I'm not paying the private sector from my pocket. Nor can the private sector tax me for bull**** programs and redudant govt agencies.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    NO, it isn't. Sorry.
    Ok, you lost the debate on the issue entirely and now you just deflecting since you have no arguments.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Wow, to both the raising of your premiums and that you have only been working since 99.
    i completed graduate school that year. jobs previous to that year did not offer health insurance, so i was covered on my parents' plan before 1999.

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    For the last couple decades I've been self-employed - which means I pay for my own healhcare insurance. Every two to three years the premium would rise 10 to 20 dollars a month. But since Obamacare, every six months it has risen.
    i'm sure that the amount varies between plans. since getting burned by an HMO that tried to get out of paying an emergency room bill when i was in respiratory arrest because i panicked and went to the emergency room when i couldn't breathe instead of calling my doctor at 2 am to get him to refer me to the emergency room, i generally buy the best plan i can get.

    if my parents hadn't had a little clout with the hospital, i would have been totally screwed, and the emergency room bill would have cost around $1,500 with the HMO paying zero. there's something wrong with that.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Which is EXACTLY why the affordable care act makes sense. Our emergency rooms can now go back to being emergency rooms and not free/low cost clinics....and we can provide more healthcare, to more people at a better cost.
    Again with clarity, we already had that with the federally funded clinics. Which had their funding cut by Obama Care.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    And there you are without a clue to the mechanism that you are whining about.

    Prove me wrong if you have the sand.


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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    Well I'm not paying the private sector from my pocket. Nor can the private sector tax me for bull**** programs and redudant govt agencies.
    Really? No health coverage?
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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