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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Have you asked Him? Did he say the answer was to rob your neighbors?

    . . . tha's funny.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Where should the poorest of the poor be?
    On the dole. But don't say the HC bill is going to help the poorest of the poor, when we know that isn't true.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Bloomberg surveyed 21 top legal scholars last week; 19 of them felt that the individual mandate was constitutional. As did 2 prominent conservative federal judges who actually heard the case, and are (were?) on the short list to be the Supreme Court picks for the next Republican president. As did the Republican-appointed Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
    If I read your article correctly, only 8 of the 21 experts felt the individual mandate would be upheld.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    There's no theft going on. And to the believer, it is a commandment and not a suggestion (contrary to popular sentiment).
    Tax is legalized governmental theft. Nothng more.

    Jesus would never force someone to do something they didn't want to. The end, period. it's idiotic to bring Jesus into this when its obvious you know jack **** about anything related to him.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    On the dole. But don't say the HC bill is going to help the poorest of the poor, when we know that isn't true.
    OK. But I just wanted to make sure you weren't expecting something else. However, I think he was always speaking of the working poor, who are most needy and who likely will be helped the most.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    So. This has now been extended to mean that taxes may be punitive (something new) to punish private transactional inactivity.
    It looks that way. But the court only said that obamacare was legal because they could consider the 'fee' a 'tax'. They did not rule on the constitutionality of that actual tax, nor can there be a court case challenging it until it goes into effect and is collected.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by vendur View Post
    Tax is legalized governmental theft. Nothng more.

    Jesus would never force someone to do something they didn't want to. The end, period. it's idiotic to bring Jesus into this when its obvious you know jack **** about anything related to him.
    That's more than a bit hyperbolic. Actually, all of it more than a bit hyperbolic. Perhaps you should wait until you're less emotional.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The good news is that the vast majority will benefit from the bill in many ways. That went right over your head I guess.

    Really? I say we wait to see how this govt run program is gonna help people. As of the signing, those older Americans on Medicare, which they've paid into for years and years, have been the first thrown under the bus, at the tune of $500 Million in cuts. I guess our grandparants will get used to paying more for HC and eating more cat food.


    But hey, that's good news to you.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by vendur View Post
    Tax is legalized governmental theft. Nothng more.

    Jesus would never force someone to do something they didn't want to. The end, period. it's idiotic to bring Jesus into this when its obvious you know jack **** about anything related to him.
    Neither of those statements is true. If you had read both the Bible and the Constitution you would know.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's more than a bit hyperbolic. Actually, all of it more than a bit hyperbolic. Perhaps you should wait until you're less emotional.
    So if I go over to your house, take all your money and credit cards, and then go on a spending spree, it's not theft if I promise I'll do something nice for you return?

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