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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Liberals cheer over law that feeds corporations billions of dollars.
    Weird twist of irony here.

    In all seriousness, I disagree with decision of course, but it's not really surprising how they ruled.
    What's more surprising is that Roberts ruled in favor, while Kennedy didn't.
    I would expect the opposite.
    It's not surprising, Roberts is a neocon plant; Kennedy is just a slightly left moderate.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    What "new power"? Roberts' decision was very narrow, and simply reaffirmed the federal government's power to levy a tax. That power has existed under our Constitution since, umm, always.
    No, not always. Before Madison v Marbury established precedent, even Jefferson did not think the court had the power. Quite simply, if you read the federalist, or any of Madison's writings of the time, the SCOTUS was not to be a "co-equal" branch of government, but rather a referee between the Executive and the Judiciary.

    That aside, what this decision does is to make a new right for the federal government to tax private transactional inactivity.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    What "new power"? Roberts' decision was very narrow, and simply reaffirmed the federal government's power to levy a tax. That power has existed under our Constitution since, umm, always.
    Let’s not play dumb here. Nearly all constitutional scholars(and nearly 75% of Americans polled) found the individual mandate to be a new power. It is certainly a new use of power not previously used, and I think all you cheerleaders would be well served to wait and see how corporate ran government uses this new power in the future before waving the pom poms further.

    I see it ending quite badly.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    You show again that you do not understand what it means to be a free adult. You do not understand private property rights. You do not understand entering into contracts. And you have the heart of a thug. You want someone else to pay for your stuff. Your words so very clearly reveal you.
    Again it comes down to the fear that somebody else will benefit from your money. That has been the American way for generations and you are just coming to that realization now? It is sort of funny.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We're screwed.
    Hasn't the sky fallen already? I mean, it's been falling for years.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    So your willing to pay for the poors medical..........What about a job, car to get to the job, food, a house to live in.............Where does it end for you socialists?
    What would Jesus do?
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Reading not easy... must try harder.

    Being a SA seems to come easy for you though. Thanks

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    What would Jesus do?
    He wouldn't rob peter to pay paul.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    50,700,000 is only 1% of 320,000,000?

    try 16%.
    It was a typo, and the population is more like 350mil
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Yes but every $1 that Texas (or any other state) collects to pay for this Medicaid expansion, they'll actually be able to put $2 towards the program. That's a great deal and any governor/legislature would be stupid not to take it. I have no doubt that there are some who WILL be that stupid, at least in the short term. But I strongly suspect that 5 years from now, they'll all be on board. Even the Republican states will simply wait until no one is looking, then quietly enact it.
    Heh, that's like my wife coming home to tell me she saved 50% on her $2000 purchase. Of course we couldn't afford to spend anything to begin with and what she actually did is spend $2000 we couldn't afford to spend in the first place.

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