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    Re: Jimmy Carter Accuses U.S. of 'Widespread Abuse of Human Rights'[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    Well, he was never the sharpest tack anyway. He has ceaselessly sought to vindicate his failed presidency and himself by presuming to be the conscience of a nation with even less success than his presidency.
    LOL! Carter was one of the brightest presidents. His sin was that he refused to get down in the mud with the slime in Washington. Carter was/is grounded morally and ethically. He has not sold out. He has remained true to his principles.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter Accuses U.S. of 'Widespread Abuse of Human Rights'[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    LOL! Carter was one of the brightest presidents. His sin was that he refused to get down in the mud with the slime in Washington. Carter was/is grounded morally and ethically. He has not sold out. He has remained true to his principles.
    Imo, his sin was that he was a coward in dealing with the issue of Iran holding Americans hostage.
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    Re: Jimmy Carter Accuses U.S. of 'Widespread Abuse of Human Rights'[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Imo, his sin was that he was a coward in dealing with the issue of Iran holding Americans hostage.
    Huh.....running a special ops.....and securing their release finally through negotiations....was "sinful"...I guess.
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    Re: Jimmy Carter Accuses U.S. of 'Widespread Abuse of Human Rights'[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Huh.....running a special ops.....and securing their release finally through negotiations....was "sinful"...I guess.
    Ummm, the Iranians were released after Carter left- probably because they knew Reagan wouldn't have put up with their ****. Carter was a foreign policy failure.
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    Re: Jimmy Carter Accuses U.S. of 'Widespread Abuse of Human Rights'[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Ummm, the Iranians were released after Carter left- probably because they knew Reagan wouldn't have put up with their ****. Carter was a foreign policy failure.
    Um, you need to revisit that history, 13 were released in 1979, 52 were released as Reagan was sworn in, the efforts and success in releasing them rests with the Carter admin.

    On the other hand, compare that with the efforts of the Reagan admin in the Iran-Contra affair.

    I bet you won't.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter Accuses U.S. of 'Widespread Abuse of Human Rights'[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Carter was/is grounded morally and ethically. He has not sold out. He has remained true to his principles.
    So THAT'S why he never says a word about the incredible degree of misogyny, homophobia and abysmal human rights record among those he supports so thoroughly as he does -- it's his principles.

    About the only principle in play here is that he is loyal to those who support him financially.
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    Re: Jimmy Carter Accuses U.S. of 'Widespread Abuse of Human Rights'[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Tribalism is one of the facets of conservative thinking. The problem is that this form of loyalty can get in the way of objective analysis and it often does.
    Which is why America can't dig itself out of the hole it's getting into at the moment.

    The first part of solving a problem is admitting there is one.

    America isn't the greatest country in the world anymore.

    It could be again, but until Americans can admit it no longer is, the American exceptionalism mindset will destroy the country quicker than anything else could.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter Accuses U.S. of 'Widespread Abuse of Human Rights'[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    LOL! Carter was one of the brightest presidents. His sin was that he refused to get down in the mud with the slime in Washington. Carter was/is grounded morally and ethically. He has not sold out. He has remained true to his principles.

    I'd agree he was an intelligent man, but IMO, a lousy POTUS.

    I believe it JFK that said, and I'm paraphrasing, he wasn't the smartest man in the room, but he was smart enough to surround himself with smart people.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter Accuses U.S. of 'Widespread Abuse of Human Rights'[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener
    So THAT'S why he never says a word about the incredible degree of misogyny, homophobia and abysmal human rights record
    You mean Republicans?
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