Page 3 of 8 FirstFirst 12345 ... LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 76

Thread: Court rejects corporate campaign spending limits

  1. #21
    Sage
    Excon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Last Seen
    10-14-17 @ 01:26 PM
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,997

    Re: Court rejects corporate campaign spending limits

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Really? If HoboCorp donates $3 million to supporting the campaign of a certain candidate, who is HoboCorp representing? The investors? They weren't briefed on it, and they had no direct say on the matter.
    Yes, really!

  2. #22
    Sometimes wrong

    ttwtt78640's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Uhland, Texas
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:53 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    34,688

    Re: Court rejects corporate campaign spending limits

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Really? If HoboCorp donates $3 million to supporting the campaign of a certain candidate, who is HoboCorp representing? The investors? They weren't briefed on it, and they had no direct say on the matter.
    If HoboCorp pays $120,000,000 in taxes who represents HoboCorp's interest in passing laws to help support more Hobos? After all, their coporate slogan is "WE NEED A HOBO UNDER EVERY BRIDGE".
    How dare you deny the rights of Hobos!
    Last edited by ttwtt78640; 06-25-12 at 09:17 PM.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

  3. #23
    Sage

    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Texas, Vegas, Colombia
    Last Seen
    11-28-16 @ 06:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    20,295

    Re: Court rejects corporate campaign spending limits

    welll.... good.

    it's good that neither States nor the Federal Government can limit independent political expenditures ( key word is independent)..... I know it's not popular, but I can't help siding with the 1st amendment on this one.

  4. #24
    Rockin' In The Free World
    the makeout hobo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Sacramento, CA
    Last Seen
    04-24-14 @ 06:58 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    7,102

    Re: Court rejects corporate campaign spending limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Yes, really!
    Can you expand what you're trying to say here, please?
    The Makeout Hobo is real, and does indeed travel around the country in his van and make out with ladies... If you meet the Makeout Hobo, it is customary to greet him with a shot of whiskey and a high five (if you are a dude) or passionate makeouts (if you are a lady).

  5. #25
    Rockin' In The Free World
    the makeout hobo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Sacramento, CA
    Last Seen
    04-24-14 @ 06:58 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    7,102

    Re: Court rejects corporate campaign spending limits

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    If HoboCorp pays $120,000,000 in taxes who represents HoboCorp's interest in passing laws to help support more Hobos? After all, their coporate slogan is "WE NEED A HOBO UNDER EVERY BRIDGE".
    How dare you deny the rights of Hobos!
    Every person who works for HoboCorp has a vote, and everyone who is affected by HoboCorp has a vote. That is how they represent their interest: at the ballot box. I walk over bridges, I have an interest in the hobo-bridge ratio too. HoboCorp shouldn't get more say than me because they have more money. That leads to a plutocracy.

    Though to be fair, HoboCorp has a pretty laudable goal.
    The Makeout Hobo is real, and does indeed travel around the country in his van and make out with ladies... If you meet the Makeout Hobo, it is customary to greet him with a shot of whiskey and a high five (if you are a dude) or passionate makeouts (if you are a lady).

  6. #26
    Rockin' In The Free World
    the makeout hobo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Sacramento, CA
    Last Seen
    04-24-14 @ 06:58 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    7,102

    Re: Court rejects corporate campaign spending limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    welll.... good.

    it's good that neither States nor the Federal Government can limit independent political expenditures ( key word is independent)..... I know it's not popular, but I can't help siding with the 1st amendment on this one.
    The problem with your statement is that you assume that the people who disagree with you are siding against the first amendment. I am very much against Citizens United, and I see my views on campaign spending entirely in sync with the First Amendment.
    The Makeout Hobo is real, and does indeed travel around the country in his van and make out with ladies... If you meet the Makeout Hobo, it is customary to greet him with a shot of whiskey and a high five (if you are a dude) or passionate makeouts (if you are a lady).

  7. #27
    Sometimes wrong

    ttwtt78640's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Uhland, Texas
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:53 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    34,688

    Re: Court rejects corporate campaign spending limits

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Every person who works for HoboCorp has a vote, and everyone who is affected by HoboCorp has a vote. That is how they represent their interest: at the ballot box. I walk over bridges, I have an interest in the hobo-bridge ratio too. HoboCorp shouldn't get more say than me because they have more money. That leads to a plutocracy.

    Though to be fair, HoboCorp has a pretty laudable goal.
    The votes of HoboCorp employees, their friends and families make up .00003% of the population, but $3 million buys some very impressive media ads, connecting HoboCorps interests to candidate Smiley, who was trailing slightly in the polls, just behind candidate Grumpy, the rich, incumbent opponent of Smiley. But once Grumpy got exposed in the HoboCorp ads, as an agent for the society for the elimination of hobos, the election turned on that ONE pressing issue, giving Smiley the upset win, even though the MSM loved old Grumpy and thus refused to report it. ;-)
    Last edited by ttwtt78640; 06-25-12 at 09:50 PM.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

  8. #28
    Sage
    AdamT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Last Seen
    02-13-13 @ 04:09 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    17,773

    Re: Court rejects corporate campaign spending limits

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The votes of HoboCorp employees, their friends and families make up .00003% of the population, but $3 million buys some very impressive media ads, connecting HoboCorps interests to candidate Smiley, who was trailing slightly in the polls, just behind candidate Grumpy, the rich, incumbent opponent of Smiley. But once Grumpy got exposed in the HoboCorp ads, as an agent for the society for the elimination of hobos, the election turned on that ONE pressing issue, giving Smiley the upset win, even though the MSM loved old Grumpy and thus refused to report it. ;-)
    So what you're saying is that Hobocorp should have the right to exercise MORE influence than would be justified based upon its employees, shareholders, and customers? I guess that explains why you would support $100 million in donations from a guy like Sheldon Adelson who makes most of his money from casinos in Macau and Singapore.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

    -- Adam Smith

  9. #29
    Sage
    Excon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Last Seen
    10-14-17 @ 01:26 PM
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,997

    Re: Court rejects corporate campaign spending limits

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Can you expand what you're trying to say here, please?
    If a Corporation is acting in it's interest to make a profit, then it is also acting in the interests of it's share holders to make a profit.

    If a Union is acting in it's interests to make a profit, it is also acting in the interest of it's members to make a profit.

    You can switch the word "profit" with "benefit" if you choose, same dif.
    There will always be the exception to the rule, but in general, the above holds true.

  10. #30
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Last Seen
    07-19-17 @ 03:51 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    60,458

    Re: Court rejects corporate campaign spending limits

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    The problem with your statement is that you assume that the people who disagree with you are siding against the first amendment. I am very much against Citizens United, and I see my views on campaign spending entirely in sync with the First Amendment.
    You can't possibly be siding with the first amendment and at the same time want to limit certain people from speech in the matter you are doing.

Page 3 of 8 FirstFirst 12345 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •