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    Supreme Court strikes down Montana limits on corporate campaign spending

    Supreme Court strikes down Montana limits on corporate campaign spending - The Washington Post

    WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Monday turned away a plea to revisit its 2-year-old campaign finance decision in the Citizens United case and instead struck down a Montana law limiting corporate campaign spending.The same five conservative justices in the Citizens United majority that freed corporations and labor unions to spend unlimited amounts in federal elections joined Monday to reverse a Montana court ruling upholding the state’s century-old law. The four liberal justices dissented...

    Montana aggressively defended its 1912 law against a challenge from corporations seeking to be free of spending limits, and the state Supreme Court sided with the state. The state court said a history of corruption showed the need for the limits, even as Justice Anthony Kennedy declared in his Citizens United opinion that independent expenditures by corporations “do not give rise to corruption or the appearance of corruption.”


    I found this especially interesting, since the conservative bloc on the Supreme Court was ruling against state's rights, and since the background of the Montana law goes directly against Kennedy's statement that expenditures by corporations won't give rise to corruption.
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    Re: Court rejects corporate campaign spending limits

    Thanks Redress, I didn't see the original.
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Montana limits on corporate campaign spending

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    Supreme Court strikes down Montana limits on corporate campaign spending - The Washington Post



    I found this especially interesting, since the conservative bloc on the Supreme Court was ruling against state's rights, and since the background of the Montana law goes directly against Kennedy's statement that expenditures by corporations won't give rise to corruption.
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    Yes, this is really a matter that should be left to the states ... err ... unless it would disadvantage big money Republicans ... then it's clearly a federal issue.
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Montana limits on corporate campaign spending

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Yes, this is really a matter that should be left to the states ... err ... unless it would disadvantage big money Republicans ... then it's clearly a federal issue.
    The thing that really makes me sad is that the Roberts Court is acting in a blatantly activist manner, where they're overturning precedents that have stood for a century without challenge, and have on several occasions gone far past the question in front of them... and are still applauded by the same people who bemoaned "judicial activism." This is the most activist court in living memory, but Conservatives don't care.
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    Re: Court rejects corporate campaign spending limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Time to amend the Constitution.

    Corporations and Unions are NOT people...
    Agreed. And for all the talk around here about corporations, the unions benefit from Citizen's United as well. A reversal of Citizen's United would also restrict the union's "right" to donate to campaigns without limit.

    Btw, head on over to Opensecrets.org, numbers six and seven of the top ten are union PACs. Take a look at the Heavy Hitters list and the top tier is filled with unions.

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    Re: Court rejects corporate campaign spending limits

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Agreed. And for all the talk around here about corporations, the unions benefit from Citizen's United as well. A reversal of Citizen's United would also restrict the union's "right" to donate to campaigns without limit.

    Btw, head on over to Opensecrets.org, numbers six and seven of the top ten are union PACs. Take a look at the Heavy Hitters list and the top tier is filled with unions.
    What's your point, exactly? Unions have been against the Citizens United decision, so I don't see how that's relevant, unless you just want an excuse to attack unions.
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    Re: Court rejects corporate campaign spending limits

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Agreed. And for all the talk around here about corporations, the unions benefit from Citizen's United as well. A reversal of Citizen's United would also restrict the union's "right" to donate to campaigns without limit.

    Btw, head on over to Opensecrets.org, numbers six and seven of the top ten are union PACs. Take a look at the Heavy Hitters list and the top tier is filled with unions.

    OK, I did "head on over to Opensecrets.org" and found the following

    2012 Top Organizations Funding Outside Spending Groups in the top 30 donor groups listed, unions contributed $17,302,000 - a lot of money but let's look at the top individual donors:

    Sheldon Adelson and his wife have contributed $25,000,000 to conservative causes in this election cycle, he may provide even more - Adelson's Pro-Romney Donations Will Be 'Limitless,' Could Top $100M

    But, but ... Sheldon's not a corporation! True but for anyone to claim the unions are spending as much or more to support the President's re-election when just one individual is giving more than the top labor groups combined is a bit out there. Mr Adelson's Drug Clinic is shown to have contributed another $15,000,000

    In the list of top 20 corporate/group donors, there are only three unions listed and one corporation, DreamWorks Animation, shown as donating to Liberal causes.

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    Re: Court rejects corporate campaign spending limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    And here I foolishly had hope that the court would fix their mistake. What a silly thing to think...
    It wasn't a mistake to begin with.


    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Corporations and Unions are NOT people...
    They are made up of people who they represent.

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    Re: Court rejects corporate campaign spending limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    They are made up of people who they represent.
    Really? If HoboCorp donates $3 million to supporting the campaign of a certain candidate, who is HoboCorp representing? The investors? They weren't briefed on it, and they had no direct say on the matter.
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