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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    But they ARE living here; I think that was his point.
    i think he said they were sending the money back home (as in where they originally came from).

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by majora$$hole View Post
    i think he said they were sending the money back home (as in where they originally came from).
    Yes, that's what he said. But they are still living here ... and on even less than their low wages, as they're sending some of their wages home.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by majora$$hole View Post
    again semantics....
    I'm beggining to suspect you do not know what that word means. Which would be quite ironic.

    it dosen't matter if it is them or the money either way it goes elsewhere. legals can't live on the same wage because it costs FAR more to live here then to live where these people are from.
    That, of course, makes absolutely no sense whatsoever since the very nature of being illegal means they have to live here.

    Now, have you met my friend "common sense"? He'd really like to be included in your arguments.

    what is the excuse for YOUR ignorance?
    There is none. If I am ignorant, it is because I do not know something. What could possibly excuse that?


    Perhaps explain it, but not excuse it. (And just so you know, the inconsequential difference between "explain" and "excuse" in this situation is actually a matter of semantics. I figured a demonstration was required so that you could alleviate your ignorance of what it actually looks like by being exposed to it first hand)
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Yes, that's what he said. But they are still living here ... and on even less than their low wages, as they're sending some of their wages home.
    You're obviously correct, but why bother trying to explain it? He clearly has the absurd notion that it is possible ot be an illegal immigrant in the US while also residing in another country. That kind of thinking cannot be countered with logic and common sense.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    False premise. Most illegals do not go home. They often send money home to their families, though, which means that their livable wage is even lower than what they get paid. Why can't legals live on the same wage?




    That's just some nonsense people say in order to excuse their ignorance.
    The reason the "legals", most of us, can not live on what "illegals" live on is often two fold. One is how long you are used to living in one place, as in establishing a permanent year around home, for yourself and your family or are content to follow the work moving several times per year. The other is what you have in mind as a decent standard of living. If you come from a place with no aversion to trashing the environment, roadside dumping and living three, or more people, to a room, then you can live quite cheaply, if you are happy to share a vehicle and living space with virtual strangers. For low skilled labor, employers see only the need to get the work done, and could really care less how you must live or even how you behave off the job, so illegal labor is only seen as a plus (since the bosses don't need to live next to the help) as the wages/benefits offered can be far less.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The reason the "legals", most of us, can not live on what "illegals" live on is often two fold. One is how long you are used to living in one place, as in establishing a permanent year around home, for yourself and your family or are content to follow the work moving several times per year. The other is what you have in mind as a decent standard of living. If you come from a place with no aversion to trashing the environment, roadside dumping and living three, or more people, to a room, then you can live quite cheaply, if you are happy to share a vehicle and living space with virtual strangers. For low skilled labor, employers see only the need to get the work done, and could really care less how you must live or even how you behave off the job, so illegal labor is only seen as a plus (since the bosses don't need to live next to the help) as the wages/benefits offered can be far less.

    So the real answer is ultimately "Because the 'legals' don't want to do that which would be necessary in order to live on the same wages as an illegal".

    It really comes down to what legals are unwilling to put up with, not that the wage isn't a livable one. It's the conveniences that they don't want to give up.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    The hard left democrats were swept out of all state offices that matter. The legislature is now in the hands of the Republicans some of whom are conservatives.

    You just go right on believing you are an expert in Alabama politics. I think it is kinda cute.
    Doesn't take an expert to see that water is wet or the sky is blue.
    Alabama and the rest of The South have never been liberal regardless of the letter behind their politician's names. Talking about "hard left democrats" in Alabama, except as a small minority, is blatant propaganda that no one is buying.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    We are heading the right direction now that the Democrats have been swept out of office.
    California has no future. It is sad really.
    Your continued propaganda for and loyalty to Alabama is most entertaining. Are you running for office or just amassing contributions to pay off your Republican friends for favors owed? LOL!
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Doesn't take an expert to see that water is wet or the sky is blue.
    Alabama and the rest of The South have never been liberal regardless of the letter behind their politician's names. Talking about "hard left democrats" in Alabama, except as a small minority, is blatant propaganda that no one is buying.
    The hard left democrats did what all leftists do. They unholy alliance between democrat politicians and public sector unions occurs everywhere. In my state the people may be more wary of liberal, cradle-to-grave, socialist programs but that has very little to do with the damage done in my state.

    That has ended. After 136 years the one-party rule has switched parties. Choose not to buy if if that is your wish. The case remains that hard left democrats prevented the state from working to solve the illegal alien problem. Under Republicans we have taken a major step toward eliminating one of the problem. It is the same for other problems that the democrats preferred to exploit instead of solve.

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Your continued propaganda for and loyalty to Alabama is most entertaining. Are you running for office or just amassing contributions to pay off your Republican friends for favors owed? LOL!
    I don't know how to answer this. We have many bright days ahead of us in my state. Your state is depopulating is it not? If it were not for all of the illegal aliens wouldn't you have a major population decline?

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