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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    No actually that will increase demand for legal employees.



    Too much work, too much beaurocracy. bureaucracy.



    You gonna put a gun to their head to make them work?
    Don't believe the lie that people can easily and quickly get another job.

    Fast track the confiscation. This fear of drawn-up litigation is something made up by people who can stop it but don't really want to.

    If he doesn't want to work, that's his problem. We'll promote whoever does his job when he takes off. Quit believing in rights and procedures that are against the common good.
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You realize that you're making the union argument, right? Employers are just paying low wages because they're greedy -- not because they have to to remain competitive. Sometimes its true -- in both cases -- and sometimes it's not. Sometimes the loss of undocumented workers will result in more legal workers being hired, and sometimes a company can simply no longer compete with foreign competition.

    The truth is that the economy is better off with illegals than it would be without them. Immigration laws in Arizona and Alabama come at a great economic cost | Business | TIME.com

    Of course it would be better still if we brought them out of the shadows with immigration reform.
    I wish the will of the majority would come out of the shadows with a baseball bat to hit a home run on the job thieves and strike out the traitors who enable them.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    I still believe the best solution left for Arizona is to escort the illegals the feds won't touch to the California border. Give them a complimentary "ICE didn't want me" hat and turn them loose with an addressed (to ICE) and stamped postcard ready for mail that says, "thanks for the ride!"

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Why should we treat these "traitors" in a way that is treasonous to other American ideals?
    The same people who want to treat property as a person want to treat a person as property.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    LOL! Would you care to review Bush's I & II stance on immigration then try telling that lie, again? The repo's are even worse. They need to keep their business buddy's in cheap labor.

    Why? Is it that every crappy over reach that Obama does, it has to have an immediate knee jerk, 'Well, Bush....." It's such BS!
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Why should we treat these "traitors" in a way that is treasonous to other American ideals?

    Why because they are evil, greedy business fat cats of course....Let's see how people like it when their pack of boneless chicken breasts for the grill costs them $22.00 for the same pack they now pay $9.50 for....
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    The same people who want to treat property as a person want to treat a person as property.
    How about we drop the cliche's and make points, m'kay?
    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    136 years of one party democrat rule ended in the last election.
    Actually, 4 of your 6 last governors have been Republicans. That takes you back to Wallace. And you've voted for Republicans for president every time since 1964 except Carter, who is from the state next door.

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    The difference between Alabama and California is that our dark days are behind us while your future will be filled with them.
    Yeah.. Sky high illiteracy rates, a miniscule percentage of the population with graduate degrees, about half as many college degrees per capita as CA, heavy investment in the previous generation's industries... That's the ticket to success! lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Why does California have higher unemployment than almost everywhere?
    Because, as I said, CA's economy is much more volatile than most states. It is heavily invested in high risk/high reward industries like biotech and software and whatnot. So, when things are good, they've very good there, and when things are bad, they're very bad there. Remember, just a few years ago CA had amongst the lowest unemployment rates and the largest budget surplus ever for any state in this country. The unemployment in CA is different than in most states. The hardest hit industries were things like software. Somebody who gets laid off for a couple years after making $160k for a decade isn't in the same boat as somebody who gets laid off after barely making enough to get by.
    Total tax rates- People living in poverty: 16.2%. The median American: 27%. Working people who make over $140k/year: 31%. The top 1%: 30%. Super rich investors: around 15%. Help the democrats retake the house.

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Actually, 4 of your 6 last governors have been Republicans. That takes you back to Wallace. And you've voted for Republicans for president every time since 1964 except Carter, who is from the state next door.
    This state has a weak governor model. The real power resides in the legislature. And that, along with almost every single state office of relevance has been in the hands of liberal democrats for 136 years. The last election was essentially a clean sweep with nearly all public offices being won by Republicans. Now all we have to do is behave honorably and to the benefit of the citizens' rights to be as free as possible from government meddling.

    Yeah.. Sky high illiteracy rates, a miniscule percentage of the population with graduate degrees, about half as many college degrees per capita as CA, heavy investment in the previous generation's industries... That's the ticket to success! lol.
    ...combined with low taxes, a business-friendly environment, low state regulations...and anti-illegal alien laws.

    That is why our dark days are behind us. While California will have dark days as far as the eye can see. It is a shame really. That state flushed so much potential down the liberal, statist, drain.

    I wish California all the best. Sincerely. But I know you guys will avoid the remedies that will make a difference in favor of more liberalism, more statism, more socialism, more business-destructive policies and regulations...it is a real shame.

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    This state has a weak governor model. The real power resides in the legislature. And that, along with almost every single state office of relevance has been in the hands of liberal democrats for 136 years. The last election was essentially a clean sweep with nearly all public offices being won by Republicans. Now all we have to do is behave honorably and to the benefit of the citizens' rights to be as free as possible from government meddling.

    ...combined with low taxes, a business-friendly environment, low state regulations...and anti-illegal alien laws.

    That is why our dark days are behind us. While California will have dark days as far as the eye can see. It is a shame really. That state flushed so much potential down the liberal, statist, drain.

    I wish California all the best. Sincerely. But I know you guys will avoid the remedies that will make a difference in favor of more liberalism, more statism, more socialism, more business-destructive policies and regulations...it is a real shame.
    If the Republican model for running a state worked better than the Democratic one, why are virtually all blue states head and shoulders above virtually all red states economically? Do you really think the policy of underinvesting in the foundations of society is going to work better for Alabama than it has for all the other states? Do you really think Alabama has been investing in the foundations all along?
    Total tax rates- People living in poverty: 16.2%. The median American: 27%. Working people who make over $140k/year: 31%. The top 1%: 30%. Super rich investors: around 15%. Help the democrats retake the house.

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