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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Many are being paid under the table. Would you support a penalty on the employer of such persons of $1,000.00 per day per worker if the employer is caught?
    Confiscate the employer's business property. Let's play hardball!
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    Confiscate the employer's business property. Let's play hardball!
    Small, hands-off government in action!
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    We ALL get screwed by the use of illegal immigrant labor. The illegal alien worker makes 5x to 10x more (after expenses) than they could in the homeland, send a good bit of that back "home" and keep wages down for those here. It is that last part, the wage depression that makes them "so vital to our economy", as is always the argument. Even though only 2% work in agriculture, that is the "image" that is used to explain that they only take "jobs that citizens refuse to do", the great lie on the left (and right) to keep the supply of easily exploitable labor handy. The states don't complain much as they get paid federal "bribes" through education aid and other social services aid based on the number of illegals "found" in the census.

    In the construction trades, assembly/production, food service and retail sales jobs these workers keep ALL labor costs WAY down; they work hard, work cheap, never ask for raises/benefits and will work in unsafe/unsanitary conditions without complaint. To assert that the illegal alien worker "loses out" is absurd, as they comapre what they get paid here "net" in a month or two, and it exceeds what they could get in a year in the homeland; that is hardly "losing out", IMHO.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    We ALL get screwed by the use of illegal immigrant labor. The illegal alien worker makes 5x to 10x more (after expenses) than they could in the homeland, send a good bit of that back "home" and keep wages down for those here. It is that last part, the wage depression that makes them "so vital to our economy", as is always the argument. Even though only 2% work in agriculture, that is the "image" that is used to explain that they only take "jobs that citizens refuse to do", the great lie on the left (and right) to keep the supply of easily exploitable labor handy. The states don't complain much as they get paid federal "bribes" through education aid and other social services aid based on the number of illegals "found" in the census.

    In the construction trades, assembly/production, food service and retail sales jobs these workers keep ALL labor costs WAY down; they work hard, work cheap, never ask for raises/benefits and will work in unsafe/unsanitary conditions without complaint. To assert that the illegal alien worker "loses out" is absurd, as they comapre what they get paid here "net" in a month or two, and it exceeds what they could get in a year in the homeland; that is hardly "losing out", IMHO.
    Isn't keeping labor costs down a conservative dream?
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Isn't keeping labor costs down a conservative dream?
    Only union labor costs. And brown people....
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Small, hands-off government in action!
    Only criminals like a hands-off government.
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Only union labor costs. And brown people....
    Then they should be all about opening the floodgates, right?
    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    Only criminals like a hands-off government.
    and libertarians.
    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    Sterotypes are mostly based on truths.

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    and libertarians.
    What's the difference?
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    What's the difference?
    Clothing, mostly.
    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    Sterotypes are mostly based on truths.

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