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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    I do luv me the way the "conservative" declares his psionic ability to read my mind and to make such positive statements about my capacity, or lack thereof, to understand "so simple a concept".

    I deny that "limits ON power are anathema" to myself and others who have similar political/economic views to me. We simply appear to have a wider understanding of just which institutions have "power" in our modern economy. For myself I believe that those who would deny healthcare, education and opportunity to all citizens are the ones with the hearts of tyrants.
    In other words you have completely agreed with my assessment of you.

    Where there is no right to private property there is no justice. Where there is no justice there is tyranny. You have the heart of a tyrant.

    Look at your words. Those who would deny...that means those who will not give their property up to be used by others... instead of what it should mean that those who would prevent others from using the wealth the others create for their purposes.

    You are a socialist. You are unable to comprehend the prison you occupy as it is of your own making.

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    A funny thing to watch in these anti-immigrant folk who want a massive wall and instant deportation of 12 million people is that they are also generally bitching about how the workforce is going to be too small to support the baby boomer's social security debts. They are practically shooting themselves in the foot on an answer.
    Well, having illegals here doesn't help the baby boomers. Having employed taxpayers would help.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Well, having illegals here doesn't help the baby boomers. Having employed taxpayers would help.
    Dead wrong. Having illegals is actually BETTER for the boomers because many of them pay payroll taxes but can't receive benefits.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Dead wrong. Having illegals is actually BETTER for the boomers because many of them pay payroll taxes but can't receive benefits.
    So parasites, like AdamT, really like this deal, they THINK that they get extra tax money for free, just like taxing "the rich" at whole lot. More people to take from, that actually work, to give AdamT and his liberal entitled freinds more to waste on "nice" gov't handouts. Sure beats spending any of YOUR money; right AdamT? AdamT must think that "boomers" are silly, old geezers that will truely appreciate people slaving away for their rich liberal masters, since it helps replace some SS money being blown off (since some pay no FIT and would otherwise not know the kindness of their liberal king), via "temporary" withholding holidays, to celebrate the "histroric" kindness of king Barack. Yes he can!
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    It took a Civil War, BTW, to stop the flow of cheap foreign labor. Just saying.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Of course you wouldn't. You are a socialist. You cannot comprehend so simple a concept as constitutionally limited government. For you and others like you limits of power are anathema to you. That is why you have the heart of a tyrant.
    What's wrong with having the heart of a tyrant? Sure beats having the heart of a vegetable, which is weird when you think about it cause plants don't have hearts.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    So parasites, like AdamT, really like this deal, they THINK that they get extra tax money for free, just like taxing "the rich" at whole lot.
    Parasites, eh? I'd wager that I paid more taxes this year than you paid in the last five.

    But that's beside the point. By pointing out the FACT that illegals create a net entitlement surplus I was not endorsing illegal immigration. Obviously it creates many problems.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Parasites, eh? I'd wager that I paid more taxes this year than you paid in the last five.
    A legitimate point Adam, and just FWIW I've never considered that you might be a "parasite" from what you posted. I disagree with much of it, but you certainly do not come off as a slacker or someone who takes advantage.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    But that's beside the point. By pointing out the FACT that illegals create a net entitlement surplus I was not endorsing illegal immigration. Obviously it creates many problems.
    I don't believe that's true, the difference between services used and tax paid (typically under someone else's name) leaves us with anywhere near a net entitlement surplus. And it merits repeating - illegals do not pay taxes under their own names - they do not have social security numbers, at least not their own. In fact, see how happy you are about it when some illegal, or group of them, chooses your social to use. It's happened to me, and it's a nightmare to untangle with the IRS.

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Dead wrong. Having illegals is actually BETTER for the boomers because many of them pay payroll taxes but can't receive benefits.
    How does an illegal with no ssn or tax id pay payroll taxes?
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    What's wrong with having the heart of a tyrant? Sure beats having the heart of a vegetable, which is weird when you think about it cause plants don't have hearts.
    Celery and artichokes do.

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