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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So what do you call an illegal alien who obtains amnesty?
    Pardoned, and that is a BAD idea because it rewards crime, encourgaing MORE of it. Why wait patiently (legally) in your home country if you can enter the U.S. illegally, assimilate earlier and make more money NOW, while getting your children a better education for free as well?
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I wasn't talking about posters here. But it is a fact that many if not most of the big groups spending big bucks in opposition to immigration reform have ties to white supremacist groups. They don't disseminate hate to make their case but that is what animates them.
    WOW. AdamT, you have REALLY outdone yourself now, MANY big buck, white supremacist groups are opposing immigration reform? A few links please, showing these MANY "ties". Crickets...
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Pardoned, and that is a BAD idea because it rewards crime, encourgaing MORE of it. Why wait patiently (legally) in your home country if you can enter the U.S. illegally, assimilate earlier and make more money NOW, while getting your children a better education for free as well?
    Doesn't it benefit us all that illegal immigrants currently in the US obtain citizenship? Obviously we would want at least a cursury review of their criminal history (or lack of) before granting citizenship, but overall, it benefits the country.

    I don't think amnesty is the right word as it implies an automatic granting of citizenship. But why is there opposition to people obtaining citizenship that are willing to work hard and benefit themselves and the coutnry?
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    WOW. AdamT, you have REALLY outdone yourself now, MANY big buck, white supremacist groups are opposing immigration reform? A few links please, showing these MANY "ties". Crickets...
    You can start here: John Tanton | Southern Poverty Law Center
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by Redbeard View Post
    Found the above interesting considering a Fed. Judges ruling on Florida's right to purge voter registration rolls.
    Federal judge refuses to stop Florida voter purge - CBS News
    Yes. This puts a stop to the justice department in this one instance. It is a beautiful thing.

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    yes they do, just less efficiently. Well FAR less efficiently these days with all the Female, Minority owned businesses getting preferential treatment with gubmt contracts.
    I suppose they do in one way, leases for mineral and oil rights. So for 99.9999% of the time they take wealth that others have created and consume it.

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Yes. This puts a stop to the justice department in this one instance. It is a beautiful thing.


    You guys and your dreams - shame (for you) they are only dreams.

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    You guys and your dreams - shame (for you) they are only dreams.
    A lawyer for the state said in court that no more names of potential noncitizen voters would be sent to county election supervisors until Florida’s election officials had more reliable data.

    Florida has filed its own lawsuit. For months, the state has been asking the Department of Homeland Security for access to an immigration database to verify voters’ citizenship status. It is suing the agency for access.

    “Today’s ruling puts the burden on the federal government to provide Florida with access to the Department of Homeland Security’s citizenship database,” Mr. Scott said in a statement.

    The ruling also allows county election supervisors to move forward with the removal of voters from the initial list of 2,600 voters.
    I understand why the Regime is fighting the states removing non-citizens from its lists. It makes voter fraud just a bit harder. More and more I despise Democrats, socialists and the federal government. This just keeps my disgust fresh.

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I understand why the Regime is fighting the states removing non-citizens from its lists. It makes voter fraud just a bit harder. More and more I despise Democrats, socialists and the federal government. This just keeps my disgust fresh.

    Yeah funny how a Republican administration fired eight US attorneys simply because they couldn't find any instances of aliens voting in US elections. The "Regime" isn't stopping any state from removing non-citizens from electoral rolls, it IS stopping the removal of citizens who are likely to vote for Democratic candidates. The Pennsylvania politician who spoke his mind this past week stated it very well,
    HARRISBURG - Innocent utterance or a major political Freudian slip?

    Either way, a top House Republican has come under fire for comments he made over the weekend regarding Pennsylvania's new voter-ID law - comments that critics say prove their contention that the law was motivated by the GOP's desire to skew presidential elections in its favor.

    "Voter ID, which is going to allow Gov. Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania - done,"
    Turzai told the crowd, which promptly broke into applause.

    You just keep on feeding that 'disgust', I sure don't want to be able to smell it rotting.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Yeah funny how a Republican administration fired eight US attorneys simply because they couldn't find any instances of aliens voting in US elections. The "Regime" isn't stopping any state from removing non-citizens from electoral rolls, it IS stopping the removal of citizens who are likely to vote for Democratic candidates. The Pennsylvania politician who spoke his mind this past week stated it very well,


    You just keep on feeding that 'disgust', I sure don't want to be able to smell it rotting.
    What?

    The regime is doing all that it can to set the stage for a stolen election. But we will still defeat you.

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