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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    NBC News is reporting the only aspect of the law upheld is that the provision that an immigration check must be made before someone that has been arrested (on other matters) can be released. The "Show Me your Papers" aspect, which would allow someone to be stopped, have their papers check and detained if they do not have the right papers, has been struck down.
    That is not what it says. As noted by others, an "arrest" is not required before a check can be made.

    This was the most important part of the law. It was upheld by SCOTUS !

    A win for law and order.

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    No word yet on what it is, but that ruling is in...links to follow when it hits the web.

    1 of 4 previsions upheld...still no links. The one that is left is allowing police to arrest possible illegal immigrants if they are stopped for another crime. That must be reheard by the 9th.
    Not true. Section 2, which was partially upheld, allows Arizona officials to ask for papers from those arrested, proving that they are in the US legally. If those arrested cannot produce proof, then all Arizona can do is report them to ICE. They are not allowed to do anything other than that.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    NBC News is reporting the only aspect of the law upheld is that the provision that an immigration check must be made before someone that has been arrested (on other matters) can be released. The "Show Me your Papers" aspect, which would allow someone to be stopped, have their papers check and detained if they do not have the right papers, has been struck down.
    That is the part upheld.
    "The court, in a 5-3 ruling, left standing only the "show me your papers" part of the law that requires state and local police to perform roadside immigration checks of people they've stopped or detained if a "reasonable suspicion" exists that they are in the country illegally."

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Not true. Section 2, which was partially upheld, allows Arizona officials to ask for papers from those arrested, proving that they are in the US legally. If those arrested cannot produce proof, then all Arizona can do is report them to ICE. They are not allowed to do anything other than that.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    Which means it's useless.

    AZ Republican Senators and governor knew this would happen, they want to keep their cheap foreign labor profits flowing into their pockets.
    If you REALLY wanted to end the "cheap foreign labor" profits you would CUT all federal aid to the states for illegal aliens. The federal gov't MANDATES that the states educate (the children of) illegal aliens and pays them to do it while it leaves the border open. Stop that education aid and the states would help turn off the jobs magnet as they would then bear these HUGE costs. As long as the federal gov't bears the costs and the state gets the benefits, illegal immigration will never end. The illegal immigration magnet is FEDERALLY subsidized, making it not a state cost.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    At least police can still verify the legal status of those they pull over for traffic offense.
    I understand why this was upheld owing to the basis on which it was challenged. It will have to go into effect in order to be challenged fully, so I won't argue the merits of the ruling today.

    I have a huge problem with this:
    That provision, requiring police to conduct immigration checks on individuals they arrest or merely stop for questioning whom they suspect are in the U.S. illegally,
    Read more: Arizona immigration ruling: High court strikes down much of Arizona immigration law - POLITICO.com

    So my Hispanic looking relatives, who were born here, can be harassed for doing nothing more than looking Hispanic. That's a barnyard substance.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    If you REALLY wanted to end the "cheap foreign labor" profits you would CUT all federal aid to the states for illegal aliens. The federal gov't MANDATES that the states educate (the children of) illegal aliens and pays them to do it while it leaves the border open. Stop that education aid and the states would help turn off the jobs magnet as they would then bear these HUGE costs. As long as the federal gov't bears the costs and the state gets the benefits, illegal immigration will never end. The illegal immigration magnet is FEDERALLY subsidized, making it not a state cost.
    Stopping education aid does nothing about the job magnet. Yanking employer licenses would.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    I understand why this was upheld owing to the basis on which it was challenged. It will have to go into effect in order to be challenged fully, so I won't argue the merits of the ruling today.

    I have a huge problem with this:


    Read more: Arizona immigration ruling: High court strikes down much of Arizona immigration law - POLITICO.com

    So my Hispanic looking relatives, who were born here, can be harassed for doing nothing more than looking Hispanic. That's a barnyard substance.
    So a cop asking for a white's driver's license is harassment? cool
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    Stopping education aid does nothing about the job magnet. Yanking employer licenses would.
    The DOJ objects to that. They tried to block the provision of the law going after employers.

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    Which means it's useless.

    AZ Republican Senators and governor knew this would happen, they want to keep their cheap foreign labor profits flowing into their pockets.
    Well you know the Governor gets 10% right off the top, right?
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