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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Not a good strategy, IMHO, since AZ gets lots of federal aid. I think a better approach is to team up with other "red" states and organize a much larger effort to assert state's rights; perhaps by placing toll booths on all interstates, located as to place the back up in the neighboring "blue" states and waiving through (for free) all vehicles with "friendly" state's plates, just to show Obama, and friends, what "selective law enforcement" can feel like. ;-)
    Well now, it's the legislative that grants that aid and I'm pretty sure the house at least would love seeing that thrown in the Executive's face.

    But I like your way. Maybe extend it further - escort the illegals detained that ICE refuses to deport to their border with a blue state (California) and release them. Here ya go fellas, we'll give you a ride, courtesy of the federal government.

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Yeah, why won't Obama protect Arizona? Oh wait a minute....
    Huffington Post......yeah, he stopped millions from coming over. Sure he did.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush
    As we told you yesterday on this program, the regime said it is suspending existing agreements with Arizona police over enforcement of federal immigration laws.



    It furthermore said it has issued a directive telling federal authorities to decline many of the calls from Arizona reporting illegal immigrants that the Homeland Security Department may get from Arizona cops. "Administration officials, speaking on condition they not be named..." Why? Why? If you're so proud of this why not attach your name to it, regime? "Administration officials, speaking on condition they not be named, told reporters they expect to see an increase in the number of calls they get from Arizona police -- but that won't change President Obama's decision to limit whom the government actually tries to detain and deport.

    "That means police statewide can immediately begin calling to check immigration status -- but federal officials are likely to" tell them to go to hell. Arizona cops can call, and the administration is going to tell them, "(Raspberry)." And that's not all. To intimidate Arizona law enforcement officials... What happened here? All that happened here is there are federal immigration laws on the books that the federal government is not enforcing because the Democrat Party -- losing traditional American voters in droves, left and right -- needs as many foreign citizens and illegal immigrants to come into this country as possible to be converted into voters. And into recipients of whatever federal largess Obama wants to try to pass out to purchase their votes.

    He has written off the state of Texas. He's written off white, working families. He's now written off the state of Arizona. Arizona was a state that was in play. I don't even understand why, but it was a state that was in play according to all the experts and all the presidential polling data. Well, not any longer! Arizona is... He doesn't care. To intimidate Arizona law enforcement officials, Obama further set up a hotline to complain when illegals are apprehended!

    Get this: "The Justice Department..." That’s Eric Holder of Fast and Furious fame, a program which resulted in the deaths of over 200 Mexicans! "The Justice Department announced it has set up a telephone hotline and e-mail address for the public to report potential civil rights concerns related to the implementation of the Arizona SB 1070 provision requiring immigration status verification during certain law enforcement encounters." If anybody sees something (whispering) that they think is not right, they can call and tattle.

    It's a tattletale line! It's an invitation to liberal troublemakers to shut this part of the law down What we have here is we have federal laws on immigration; the federal government was not enforcing them. Obama was not interested in enforcing the border. "What border?" He probably thinks there shouldn’t even be a border! Who do we think we are, the United States of America? What border?" Well, this is resulting in a state of chaos in the state of Arizona -- economically, politically, criminally.

    So the responsible people, the adults in Arizona, said, "We are going to enforce the law ourselves." So they wrote law which mirrors federal law. They did not go one step further. It mirrors federal law. The Supreme Court said, "You can't do that. This is a federal government job and you can't do it," and Antonin Scalia in his dissent said it boggles the mind. A sovereign state writes laws that reflect and mirror federal laws which are not being enforced. The people not enforcing the law then sue the state of Arizona for trying to enforce what is, essentially, federal law -- and they win!

    The Regime Refuses to Enforce the Border and Tells the State of Arizona to Go to Hell - The Rush Limbaugh Show
    Unbelievable! What's next? US Military rolling tanks into AZ on Obama orders? Is his name Obama or Assad?
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Unbelievable! What's next? US Military rolling tanks into AZ on Obama orders? Is his name Obama or Assad?
    Sky high hyperbole!!!



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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Sky high hyperbole!!!



    That's it? That's all you got? How disappointing....Ah well, can't expect much I guess from progressives.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That's it? That's all you got? How disappointing....Ah well, can't expect much I guess from progressives.
    I'm sorry, I find it hard to take such massive hyperbole seriously. If you want more, take it down a few notches into reality.

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Will be interesting to see how any banding of states together to try and assert state's rights over federal this time.

    If I recall American History correctly the last time was 1861 and how did that go?

    Tanks into Arizona???
    really???
    Shirley you jest...

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Unbelievable! What's next? US Military rolling tanks into AZ on Obama orders? Is his name Obama or Assad?
    I predicted this earlier, about 2:30 pm yesterday, in my post #93 above. King Barack is in full campaign mode now, expect his court jester Holder to do other mighty strange things too. The more Obama can keep the economy out of the news the happier he is. Note the oil/gasoline price is dropping, Obama will, NO DOUBT, claim credit for that, even after saying its rise was beyond his control. The SCOTUS decision on ObamaCare will also ignite much madness as the BILLIONS appropraited for it will be up for "emergency reassignment" by king Obama as well. Note that the demorat convention has suddenly been removed from the NC NASCAR track, they say it was to save money (and some other BS excuses), but I suspect that it is REALLY the expected crowd shortage that is causing the move; imagine the absolute embarrassment of a half-full speedway for the demorat's national convention being shown on live TV. LOL
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Obama is not King. And we see this everywhere from health care to taxes to the economy. Only an idiot thinks he's king. The court ruled here.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    The jurisdiction of those federal laws is very important to the matter of preemption.

    Don't get me wrong, I whole heartedly disagree with this ruling (despite the fact that I would vehemently oppose a law like Arizona's being passed in Illinois), but I also find much Scalia's dissenting opinion to be pure nonsense as well because it fails to address the larger issue of hwo the federal authority over immigration was a product of judicial activism. In fact, the hypocrite supports that judicial activism in his opinion.
    Are you referring to this?

    I accept that as a valid exercise of federal power—not because of the Naturalization Clause (it has no necessary connection to citizenship) but because it is an inherent attribute of sovereignty no less for the United States than for the States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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