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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    oh, I thought that is what this...meant:

    The court rejected the parts of the law that making it a state crime for illegal immigrants not to possess their federal registration cards; for illegal imigrants to work, apply for work or solicit work; and a section that allowed state and local police to arrest illegal immigrants without a warrant when probable cause exists that they committed "any public offense that makes the person removable from the United States."
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    The provision that the state and local law enforcement must check the legal status of individuals suspected of being illegally present did not get struck down.

    Its also already on the books that immigrants need to keep their papers on their body at all times, but at the federal level.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Interesting to say the least.
    Several have opined the 9th Court of Appeals was a bunch of Activist Judges who hate the Constitution. At least one fellow is convinced the Supreme Court would never agree with the 9th nor rule against 'conservative' issues the people have decided were proper. (gay marriage)

    The Supreme Court has ruled exactly like the 9th Court AND said the only part they let stand might be back for further review.

    I wonder if the other states pushing their versions of the AZ law will continue and waste tax payer money?

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    It's crazy how both liberals and conservatives talk about of both sides of their mouth when it comes to States rights and immigration.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Now I'm confused on one aspect of this legislation.

    Are the police able to stop anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant and force a citizen check, or can they only do that based on a traffic violation?

    I would scrap that whole idea. There are better ways of handling this then stopping every Hispanic person and forcing a citizen check because lets be honest with each other...that is exactly what will happen. A cop will see a Hispanic man or woman driving...pull them over on some botched traffic violation that would otherwise have been looked over and ask for their documents. It is a slippery slope to do this and really gives validation to those who claim we're in a police-state.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    Now I'm confused on one aspect of this legislation.

    Are the police able to stop anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant and force a citizen check, or can they only do that based on a traffic violation?

    I would scrap that whole idea. There are better ways of handling this then stopping every Hispanic person and forcing a citizen check because lets be honest with each other...that is exactly what will happen. A cop will see a Hispanic man or woman driving...pull them over on some botched traffic violation that would otherwise have been looked over and ask for their documents. It is a slippery slope to do this and really gives validation to those who claim we're in a police-state.
    NBC News is reporting the only aspect of the law upheld is that the provision that an immigration check must be made before someone that has been arrested (on other matters) can be released. The "Show Me your Papers" aspect, which would allow someone to be stopped, have their papers check and detained if they do not have the right papers, has been struck down.

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    NBC News is reporting the only aspect of the law upheld is that the provision that an immigration check must be made before someone that has been arrested (on other matters) can be released. The "Show Me your Papers" aspect, which would allow someone to be stopped, have their papers check and detained if they do not have the right papers, has been struck down.
    Ok thanks for that clarification, appreciate it.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    NBC News is reporting the only aspect of the law upheld is that the provision that an immigration check must be made before someone that has been arrested (on other matters) can be released. The "Show Me your Papers" aspect, which would allow someone to be stopped, have their papers check and detained if they do not have the right papers, has been struck down.
    Which means it's useless.

    AZ Republican Senators and governor knew this would happen, they want to keep their cheap foreign labor profits flowing into their pockets.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    NBC News is reporting the only aspect of the law upheld is that the provision that an immigration check must be made before someone that has been arrested (on other matters) can be released. The "Show Me your Papers" aspect, which would allow someone to be stopped, have their papers check and detained if they do not have the right papers, has been struck down.
    That's not what Politico has up

    That measure, requiring police to conduct immigration checks on individuals they arrest or merely stop for questioning whom they suspect are in the U.S. illegally, does not appear to violate the Constitution by intruding on the federal government’s powers to control immigration, the court said. However, the justices said further legal challenges to the provision can go forward after that part of the law takes effect.

    Read more: Arizona immigration ruling: High court strikes down much of Arizona immigration law - POLITICO.com

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    What's interesting are the members of the majority and that the decision was between upholding the enitre law (the dissenters) and upholding part of it (the majority). No vote to overturn the entire law.

    With other parts of SB1070 already in force and not a part of the court case, looking like a victory for AZ. The stricken provisions were all dealing with criminality, and in this case are up to the feds to determine.

    The "show me your papers" was upheld:

    Section 2: Requires an officer to make a reasonable attempt to determine the immigration status of a person stopped, detained or arrested if there's reasonable suspicion that person is in the country illegally. This portion also requires law enforcement to check the immigration status of people arrested and hold them indefinitely until the status is determined.

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