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Misterveritis said:
Maybe. It makes good business sense. Conservatives believe that government should be limited by a Constitution.
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Except when it's confiscating business property and shutting them down! :2rofll:
 
AdamT said:
Except when it's confiscating business property and shutting them down! :2rofll:
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I have never made such a claim. It is counter productive and wrong.

Revoking their business license and taking them to court is a reasonable way to deal with employers who break the laws.
 
Misterveritis said:
I have never made such a claim. It is counter productive and wrong.

Revoking their business license and taking them to court is a reasonable way to deal with employers who break the laws.
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You just made such a claim ... AGAIN!
 
Misterveritis said:
No. I have never made such a claim. But I am beginning to be concerned about your mental acuity. Are you okay?
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So you don't think that revoking a businesses' license is tantamount to shutting it down, or have you taken complete leave of your senses?
 
AdamT said:
So you don't think that revoking a businesses' license is tantamount to shutting it down, or have you taken complete leave of your senses?
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How is revoking their license the same as confiscating their property?

In an earlier post I suggested that a one day revocation for a first offense would be a substantial penalty.
For a second offense make it three days.
For a third offense make it a week.
For any other make it permanent.

No property need be confiscated. Nor should it be without due process.

Do you see the difference?
 
Misterveritis said:
How is revoking their license the same as confiscating their property?

In an earlier post I suggested that a one day revocation for a first offense would be a substantial penalty.
For a second offense make it three days.
For a third offense make it a week.
For any other make it permanent.

No property need be confiscated. Nor should it be without due process.

Do you see the difference?
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Two separate suggestions: Prometheusbound -- confiscate their property; you -- revoke their business license.

From the hands-off-business conservative faction....
 
AdamT said:
Two separate suggestions: Prometheusbound -- confiscate their property; you -- revoke their business license.

From the hands-off-business conservative faction....
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It is clear that you do not see the difference between revoking someone's business license and taking their property. That does explain a very great deal.

I also begin to think that you don't like the rule of law. Do you believe that being Conservative is equal to being lawless?
 
Misterveritis said:
It is clear that you do not see the difference between revoking someone's business license and taking their property. That does explain a very great deal.

I also begin to think that you don't like the rule of law. Do you believe that being Conservative is equal to being lawless?
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Was there something about "two separate suggestions" that you didn't understand?

I think that some people's idea of being conservative is equal to crying about minimally invasive regulations that evince policies they don't like, while advocating doomsday regulations that evince policies they do like.
 
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AdamT said:
Was there something about "two separate suggestions" that you didn't understand?

I think that some people's idea of being conservative is equal to crying about minimally invasive regulations that evince policies they don't like, while advocating for doomsday regulations that evince policies they do like.
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I have been clear. The core of conservatism is the belief that governments ought to be constitutionally-limited in their powers. That is it.
 
Misterveritis said:
I have been clear. The core of conservatism is the belief that governments ought to be constitutionally-limited in their powers. That is it.
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I see. Can you quote me the part of the constitution that says the federal government can revoke state business licenses?
 
AdamT said:
I see. Can you quote me the part of the constitution that says the federal government can revoke state business licenses?
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LOL. All government should be constrained by written constitutions.

Nice dodge though. Was your goal to gain understanding or just to see if you could tweak me?
 
Misterveritis said:
LOL. All government should be constrained by written constitutions.

Nice dodge though. Was your goal to gain understanding or just to see if you could tweak me?
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The latter. :D
 
AdamT said:
I see. Can you quote me the part of the constitution that says the federal government can revoke state business licenses?
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The Commerce and Necessary and Proper clauses.
 
Misterveritis said:
No. Revoke their business license. That is all that is needed. Anything else will lead to abuse and tyranny.
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We should abuse and tyrannize these economic traitors. Give patriotic Americans a chance to run those businesses.
 
Matt Foley said:
Yeah, that's all we really need.
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The property will lie idle; the legal employees will be out of work. Confiscate ownership and the business can still run. If the owner is the manager, he can still do that but have no control over the profits.
 
PrometheusBound said:
The property will lie idle; the legal employees will be out of work.
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No actually that will increase demand for legal employees.

Confiscate ownership and the business can still run.
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Too much work, too much beaurocracy. bureaucracy.

If the owner is the manager, he can still do that but have no control over the profits.
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You gonna put a gun to their head to make them work?
 
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