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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Obviously you aren’t very adept at reading legal documents if you make such conclusions. From the source:



    See how the sentence in blue, the one you left out, changes everything?
    No, it doesn't. The key is "reasonable suspicion" - and how is reasonable suspicion defined? It could be anything the law enforcer suggests.




    By the way, this is the part of the law SCOTUS left standing.
    Only because it has not been implemented yet, and because SCOTUS was uncertain about what it meant and how it would be enforced.
    The SCOTUS is already propped to throw that one out also, when AZ implements it, based on their comment regarding it.

    "The nature and timing of this case counsel caution in evaluating the validity of [Section] 2(B)," wrote Justice Anthony Kennedy on behalf of Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer and Sonia Sotomayor, noting that the law has not yet gone into effect. Because "[t]here is a basic uncertainty about what the law means and how it will be enforced," the majority chose to allow the law to go forward, but made clear that "[t]his opinion does not foreclose other preemption and constitutional challenges to the law as interpreted and applied after it goes into effect."

    Arizona Immigration Law Ruling: Supreme Court Delivers Split Decision



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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Ok. Lets see if Obama and Homeland Security will step and do the job regarding immigration. Lets see what leadership will come from this Adminstration. Illegal immigration has been pretty much been decided is a federal issue now by the court.
    Can the States now send the feds a bill for health care services rendered to illegal immigrants? How about a bill for eduction of illegal aliens? Illegal aliens is not a State issue, the court decided. So Feds, lets see you deal with it.

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    I love Brewer's commentary on this. You create a law of 4 parts and 3 of them are struck down and you still consider it a "victory". No wonder most of the South has abysmal education rates. If 1/4 provisions is a "victory" - we may as well start calling F a passing grade.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I love Brewer's commentary on this. You create a law of 4 parts and 3 of them are struck down and you still consider it a "victory". No wonder most of the South has abysmal education rates. If 1/4 provisions is a "victory" - we may as well start calling F a passing grade.
    Last time I checked, Arizona wasn't part of "the South."

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I love Brewer's commentary on this. You create a law of 4 parts and 3 of them are struck down and you still consider it a "victory". No wonder most of the South has abysmal education rates. If 1/4 provisions is a "victory" - we may as well start calling F a passing grade.
    It's a southwestern state, not a southern state. True southerners rarely miss an opportunity to take advantage of cheap labor.

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Last time I checked, Arizona wasn't part of "the South."
    It's Southwestern and you're splitting hairs just to save face. As per usual.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Last time I checked, Arizona wasn't part of "the South."
    Well, not geographically. But I'd say they have far more in common culturally and politically with the old south than they do with any other part of the country.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Last time I checked, Arizona wasn't part of "the South."
    I believe when people refer to "the South" they generally refer to the area from Georgia to West Virginia to Oklahoma to Texas and everything in between. Arizona and New Mexico (and maybe parts of west Texas) tend to be the South West.
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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Well, not geographically. But I'd say they have far more in common culturally and politically with the old south than they do with any other part of the country.
    I bet more of their population comes from the rust belt and midwestern states than the traditional south, especially the retirees.

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    Re: The AZ Immigration Law Has Been Decided

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It's Southwestern and you're splitting hairs just to save face. As per usual.
    I don't need to save face, you cheap provacateur. Sorry if the distinction between "South" and "Southwest" is too fine for you, but thanks for demonstrating your own limited understanding. Worry about splitting hairs after you're able to distinguish between various heads of hair.

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