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    Re: Anti-racism ad campaign in Minnesota town called 'racist' by critics

    NPR did a story on the un-fair campaign a few months ago.

    'Un-Fair' Anti-Racism Ads Draw Mixed Reactions : NPR
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    Re: Anti-racism ad campaign in Minnesota town called 'racist' by critics

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Speaking of silly and unfounded accusations of racism
    You're on a thread of right wingers calling one of the tamest, least controversial, anti-racism campaigns you can imagine "racist" and you don't see a problem with that?

    The sad reality is that whenever anybody tries to fight against racism, you have the right spazzing out and calling the people trying to fight against it "racist". 100% of the time, without exceptions. They are just not ok with people fighting against racism. You tell me why that is if not that they're white supremacists?
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    Re: Anti-racism ad campaign in Minnesota town called 'racist' by critics

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Are you kidding me? You're on a thread of right wingers calling one of the tamest, least controversial, anti-racism campaigns you can imagine "racist" and you don't see a problem with that?
    Actually I can understand why some would characterize the Un-Fair campaign as racist. Doesn't mean I agree with them, but I don't see their motivations as racist. And to say that th campaign is un-controversial is simply false.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Anti-racism ad campaign in Minnesota town called 'racist' by critics

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Are you kidding me? You're on a thread of right wingers calling one of the tamest, least controversial, anti-racism campaigns you can imagine "racist" and you don't see a problem with that?
    I think it's absolutely harmless, but why would I have a issue with others taking offense to it? Your post, however was a giant, laughably false accusation. I have a problem with labeling an entire group as racists because of the actions of a few which were dubiously and frankly doubtfully racist to begin with.

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    The Republican party is flat out turning into a white supremacist party. Disgusting.

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    Re: Anti-racism ad campaign in Minnesota town called 'racist' by critics

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Actually I can understand why some would characterize the Un-Fair campaign as racist. Doesn't mean I agree with them, but I don't see their motivations as racist. And to say that th campaign is un-controversial is simply false.
    They only controversy is that it acknowledges white privilege. Denying white privilege is, obviously, white supremacist. Just because this kind of thing has become acceptable on the right doesn't mean it is a reasonable viewpoint. We live in a country where the average white household has 14 times as much wealth as the average black household. In this country, today, if a white person and a black person apply for the same job with the same resume, the white person is 2.4 times more like to get an interview. A black person is 28 times more likely to be the victim of a racially motivated violent hate crime in the US today. This funhouse mirror notion on the right that even to acknowledge that, or to fight against it is "racist" is just sick. It doesn't matter how many of them do it, it is still sick. It's just cruelty and hate and nothing more.
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    Re: Anti-racism ad campaign in Minnesota town called 'racist' by critics

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    They only controversy is that it acknowledges white privilege. Denying white privilege is, obviously, white supremacist. Just because this kind of thing has become acceptable on the right doesn't mean it is a reasonable viewpoint. We live in a country where the average white household has 14 times as much wealth as the average black household. In this country, today, if a white person and a black person apply for the same job with the same resume, the white person is 2.4 times more like to get an interview. A black person is 28 times more likely to be the victim of a racially motivated violent hate crime in the US today. This funhouse mirror notion on the right that even to acknowledge that, or to fight against it is "racist" is just sick. It doesn't matter how many of them do it, it is still sick. It's just cruelty and hate and nothing more.
    No it's not. You could perhaps characterize it as ignorant or "head-in-the-sand." but just because someone has a problem with the concept of white privilege doesn't make them a white supremacist. You're engaging in serious hyperbole here.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

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    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Anti-racism ad campaign in Minnesota town called 'racist' by critics

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    I think it's absolutely harmless, but why would I have a issue with others taking offense to it? Your post, however was a giant, laughably false accusation. I have a problem with labeling an entire group as racists because of the actions of a few which were dubiously and frankly doubtfully racist to begin with.
    You should have an issue with people "taking offense" to fighting against racism because what they are trying to do is to make it socially unacceptable to fight against racism. It's no different than the folks that have always done that. The people who characterized black civil rights leaders as "uppity" and white civil rights leaders as "n-word lovers". The people who tried to paint equal rights as "communism". All that disgusting part of our history used to be fading away, but now it's back full force in the Republican party. Sure, they use the code word "racist" instead of the n-word, but it's exactly the same people doing exactly the same thing.
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    Re: Anti-racism ad campaign in Minnesota town called 'racist' by critics

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    It's just sick that any of you are so morally depraved to object even to something as innocuous as this. The kneejerk reaction of the right to attack any attempt to lessen racism is just sick. You should be ashamed of yourselves. The Republican party is flat out turning into a white supremacist party. Disgusting.
    LOL. The GOP is SO worried about losing their 2% of the black vote.
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    Re: Anti-racism ad campaign in Minnesota town called 'racist' by critics

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    They only controversy is that it acknowledges white privilege. Denying white privilege is, obviously, white supremacist. Just because this kind of thing has become acceptable on the right doesn't mean it is a reasonable viewpoint. We live in a country where the average white household has 14 times as much wealth as the average black household. In this country, today, if a white person and a black person apply for the same job with the same resume, the white person is 2.4 times more like to get an interview.
    This is America. I don't have to socialize with people that I don't want to. My company can hire whoever they want, not who YOU deem to be the most qualified. The private school my children attend is free to accept and reject whoever they want. You libs need to deal with it.

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    Re: Anti-racism ad campaign in Minnesota town called 'racist' by critics

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    No it's not. You could perhaps characterize it as ignorant or "head-in-the-sand." but just because someone has a problem with the concept of white privilege doesn't make them a white supremacist. You're engaging in serious hyperbole here.
    No. The whole "Republicans aren't racist, they're just too stupid to understand why what they are doing and saying is racist" defense does not hold water with me at all. They know exactly what they are doing. They are trying to suppress any attempt to level the playing field. Stupidity is random. They would error in random directions. This isn't random. They fight against every single attempt to counter racism. Every single time. That isn't stupidity, it is evil.
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