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    Re: Sandusky Verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    This is one area I disagree, and do not indict JoePa.

    As 00timh explained, Paterno fulfilled his obligation - he reported the claim to Graham Spangler, president of PSU. .
    Tell that to the victims and their families.

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    Re: Sandusky Verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by 00timh View Post
    While I have defended the late Joe Paterno in this scandal.... and until there is concrete proof that he was part of the cover up (and he was the 1st to actually mention something was wrong) I will continue to do so.
    Defending a well-respected man until the very end was exactly what exacerbated this problem.
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    Re: Sandusky Verdict

    There was lots of enabling going on here by Joe and everyone else in this circle of friends and co workers.

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    Re: Sandusky Verdict

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    Tell that to the victims and their families.
    So instead you'd make victims out of everyone else without burden of proof?

    Go ahead and do that. We'll see how many slander cases you get put on the cross for in civil court.

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    Re: Sandusky Verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    Justice ... yet not really ... how can justice ever be served on this evil man.

    Yes, my next question ... How could his wife not know?

    Anyone that knew or suspected this evil man was raping young boys is complicit in the evil crime.

    Disgusting ... and he lied until the end. I kept hoping he would be remorseful and and admit and take his sentence like a man and stop the charade.
    Not an excuse for his wife... but often times people will live in a denial. She likely choose not to know, or to want to know. So many people wonder how a spouse or parent didn't know when it was so plainly obvious.... its because they did not want to know.

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    Re: Sandusky Verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by 00timh View Post
    Not an excuse for his wife... but often times people will live in a denial. She likely choose not to know, or to want to know. So many people wonder how a spouse or parent didn't know when it was so plainly obvious.... its because they did not want to know.
    I tend to agree. On some level, the spouse does know...but chooses not to.

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    Re: Sandusky Verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    In a matter of minutes the verdict in the Sandusky trial will be released.

    Is there anyone, anyone who believes this could be not guilty?

    This was one of most lopsided trials.

    Mr Sandusky , here is your new shower room and your new shower mates..

    I was in my truck driving toward my usual parking spot, when I listened to the verdict come down....I have to say that even though by myself, and in the dark, I let out a cheer out loud.

    I have never heard such an incompetent attorney in my life as Sandusky's.

    45 out of 48 eh? I believe that is what you call taking care of the trash.


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    Re: Sandusky Verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I was in my truck driving toward my usual parking spot, when I listened to the verdict come down....I have to say that even though by myself, and in the dark, I let out a cheer out loud.

    I have never heard such an incompetent attorney in my life as Sandusky's.

    45 out of 48 eh? I believe that is what you call taking care of the trash.


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    I don't know if he was incompetent or just given nothing really to attack with. That would have been a tough job and if he had an IQ higher than a soapdish then he knew his client was guilty . His only avenue for the defense was to attack that the accusers were out to make money and I imagine there will indeed be some civil lawsuits.

    Realistically he may have been able to convince the jury that Sandusky had a mental disorder or plea deal. I would not want his job.

    I asked a defense attorney once how could he do his job if he really knew his client was guilty. His response was that he was there to make certain the state does its job and if we didn't provide a defense attorney for an accused we would become like Nazi Germany.

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    Re: Sandusky Verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I disagree, Paterno knew about this and stayed silent to avoid scandal. He is culpable in the crimes.
    Evidence and testimony strongly disagrees with you. Paterno did not stay silent. He didn't make a phone call or leave an email, but made a personal visit to the president of PSU because Paterno felt that this issue was serious. In hindsight, he should have contacted law enforcement. Paterno's biggest crime was trusting the president and the board of directors of PSU to do the right thing.

    I will never argue that Paterno could have done more, or different. However, to claim that Paterno is culpable of cover up in this scandal is wrong. Other than Sandusky being such a sick bastard and harming so many innocent young boys, the president and board of PSU attempted to throw Paterno under the bus to take the heat off them. In so doing, they basically were attempting to place blame on Paterno for being part of the scandal for reporting it to them so that they could cover it up thereby making Paterno responsible. it backfired on PSU, but sadly, Paterno should have been allowed to end his career in dignity as he served with utmost dignity for many decades.

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    Re: Sandusky Verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I tend to agree. On some level, the spouse does know...but chooses not to.
    It is the chooses not to though, and it doesn't make it right, but it is a strong denial that so many spouses, friends and family members do. I know a co-worker who had a husband who was in the closet for the entire marriage, had kids, the whole 9 yds. Her husband had a secret gay lover for all of it. She NEVER knew. She allowed him to make every excuse as to why he was not there so often and accepted it.

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