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    Re: Where is the 'intelligence' in the CIA?

    Those hippy freaks in the band 'Who' said all those years ago and the suits still don't get it.... 'meet the new boss, same as the old boss'

    But the power structure never seems to see it that way as American lives and treasure gets spent from the jungles of SE Asia to the wastelands of Afghanistan.

    As to the comment about morons in villages not seeing any change no matter who sits in the power seat...

    Are you talking about 'them' or 'us' ???

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    Re: Where is the 'intelligence' in the CIA?

    Aiding the rebels in Syria is not the same as Afghanistan. However, just because Afghanistan did not work out in the long term does not mean it was not the right decision at the time.
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    Re: Where is the 'intelligence' in the CIA?

    If the rebels win in Syria, the chances are good they will end up led by either the Muslim Brotherhood or al-Queda. Either of which is inimical to the US. As soon as the MB gains "democratic" control in Egypt, they immediately decide to attack Israel. Again, not in the US' interest. So why bother spinning our wheels in Syria just to end up with another enemy?
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    Re: Where is the 'intelligence' in the CIA?

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Aiding the rebels in Syria is not the same as Afghanistan. However, just because Afghanistan did not work out in the long term does not mean it was not the right decision at the time.
    I believe Afghanistan was the right decision. Unfortunately, Afghanistan's context (history, institutions, decentralized tribal structure, etc) were largely ignored in the planning for the post-Taliban era. As a result, the U.S. has often found itself behind the proverbial curve of developments, many of which it should have anticipated and had a contingency plan to address. The final outcome--not victory and not defeat--will wind up being far less than what had been attainable and should have been accomplished.

    In Syria, there is no compelling U.S. interest. Syria did not attack the U.S. It didn't seek to protect a terrorist organization that attacked the U.S. It is not posing an imminent threat to critical U.S. allies.

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    Re: Where is the 'intelligence' in the CIA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Howler63 View Post
    According to the NY Times today the CIA is aiding the arming of Syrian rebels. What a great idea. After all, it worked so well for us in Afghanistan didn't it? What could we possibly have to gain from these shenanigans? Is the American need to export 'democracy' so great that we would foolishly continue policies that have been know to fail, and to fail horribly?

    Where is the intelligence?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/21/wo...pagewanted=all
    No big surprise here. I called it some time back.

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    Re: Where is the 'intelligence' in the CIA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Howler63 View Post
    According to the NY Times today the CIA is aiding the arming of Syrian rebels. What a great idea. After all, it worked so well for us in Afghanistan didn't it?
    Um. Yes? You may recall there was this thing called the USSR.....

    What could we possibly have to gain from these shenanigans?
    Chaos, confusion, pain and distraction among those who hate and work against us? Napoleon summed it up well: Do not interrupt your enemy when he is committing suicide.

    Look. If Al-Qaeda and Iran want to go to war in Syria, my main concerns are twofold:

    1. we should make sure no CBRN type facilities go loose and
    2. we should try to enable civilians escaping the battlefield.

    Where is the intelligence?
    Well, the CIA is divided into the Operations and the Analysis branches, so generally I would say... the NSA
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    Re: Where is the 'intelligence' in the CIA?

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    If the rebels win in Syria, the chances are good they will end up led by either the Muslim Brotherhood or al-Queda. Either of which is inimical to the US. As soon as the MB gains "democratic" control in Egypt, they immediately decide to attack Israel. Again, not in the US' interest. So why bother spinning our wheels in Syria just to end up with another enemy?
    Let me make sure of this. It is your opinion that the Sunni Islamists of the MB / EIJ / AQ bent are not already our enemy.

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    Re: Where is the 'intelligence' in the CIA?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Let me make sure of this. It is your opinion that the Sunni Islamists of the MB / EIJ / AQ bent are not already our enemy.
    No, you misunderstand. Sunni Islamists of the MB / EIJ / AQ are already our enemy. If they manage to take control of Syria, then Syria will go from disliking the US from a distance, to being a very active and ambitious enemy. In other words, a much worse enemy.
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    Re: Where is the 'intelligence' in the CIA?

    A much worse enemy armed with premium US made arms and munitions, trained in their use.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Where is the 'intelligence' in the CIA?

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    A much worse enemy armed with premium US made arms and munitions, trained in their use.
    Exactly. So let's not give these guys any stinger missiles, please!
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