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    Re: Military hit for correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    The relationship is that you should not believe anything, anything at all, that you read there. Zero.
    So, unlike Hare, you have actually read the article and decided that it was 100% untrue. Is that correct?

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    Re: Military hit for correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Couldn't tell you, but don't let me impede your continued and careless tossing about of generalizations and stereotypes, I'm positive that one will stick.
    Are you the guy who wanted a link to how many people the communists have killed?

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    Re: Military hit for correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Are you the guy who wanted a link to how many people the communists have killed?
    I'm afraid not.

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    Re: Military hit for correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So, unlike Hare, you have actually read the article and decided that it was 100% untrue. Is that correct?
    No, I know better than to read articles on the Washington Times.
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    Re: Military hit for correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Sounds more like an opinion piece than an intelligence report to be perfectly blunt, but given King's prior history I'm not terribly surprised.
    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    No, I know better than to read articles on the Washington Times.

    This from the original source document..Joint Hearing: Homegrown Terrorism: The Threat to Military Communities Inside the United States, Room 210, House Visitor Center Washington, DC 20515 | Dec 7, 2011 9:30am

    Homegrown Terrorism: The Threat To Military Communities Inside The United States

    The Majority Staff of the House Committee on Homeland Security has been conducting an investigation, which finds that 70% of the plots against military targets occurred since mid-2009 – including the two successful homeland attacks since 9/11.

    Other key findings:

    • More than five terror plots have been disrupted involving U.S. military insiders in the past decade and at least 11 or more cases involved veterans or those who attempted to join law enforcement and intelligence agencies. The likelihood of another deadly attack by a trusted insider is a severe and emerging threat, which the Pentagon is aggressively investigating to identify perpetrators;
    • Two successful attacks against the military outside of Afghanistan and Iraq were perpetrated by radicalized soldiers assigned to U.S.-based Army units: at Camp Pennsylvania in Kuwait in 2003 and at Fort Hood, Texas, in 2009;
    • At least 16 external terror plots targeting military personnel stationed inside the U.S. Homeland have been disrupted or investigated;
    • At least nine other external plots were thwarted involving U.S. Persons in the homeland who traveled or planned trips overseas to kill G.I.s in Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere;
    • A growing number of terrorist threats are directed at families of military personnel. Particularly at risk are relatives of troops in units involved in counterterror operations.




    The only successful U.S. Homeland Islamist violence resulting in fatalities since September 11, 2001 have been against the military: at Fort Hood, where 13 were murdered in an active-shooter attack allegedly by Maj. Hasan, and at a Little Rock recruiting center, where Army Pvt. William Long was fatally shot point-blank by radicalized homegrown Islamist Carlos Bledsoe, who calls himself “Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad.” According to the arresting officer’s report:

    Mr. Muhammad stated that he was mad at the U.S. military because of what they had
    done to Muslims in the past... Mr. Muhammad further stated that he drove around in the
    vehicle and saw the Army Military Recruiting Station and two U.S. soldiers smoking
    outside the building... Mr. Muhammad stated that he fired several rounds at the soldiers
    with the intent of killing them. Mr. Muhammad further stated that he would have killed
    more soldiers if they had been on the parking lot.



    Both incidents also demonstrate the contradiction of the Obama administration regarding homegrown terrorism: The administration has steadfastly refused to say these cases are evidence of violent Islamist extremism.

    http://homeland.house.gov/sites/home...m_Military.pdf

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    Re: Military hit for correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    This from the original source document..Joint Hearing: Homegrown Terrorism: The Threat to Military Communities Inside the United States, Room 210, House Visitor Center Washington, DC 20515 | Dec 7, 2011 9:30am

    Homegrown Terrorism: The Threat To Military Communities Inside The United States

    http://homeland.house.gov/sites/home...m_Military.pdf
    So... House Republicans say Democrats and Muslims suck! That's the story? That's news? That is pretty much all they ever say.
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    Re: Military hit for correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    So... House Republicans say Democrats and Muslims suck! That's the story? That's news? That is pretty much all they ever say.
    Which is more than you have said in this entire thread. Should you have something to offer that is fact based and rebuts the presumptions in the report, then please by all means provide your position and your proofs.

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    Re: Military hit for correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Which is more than you have said in this entire thread. Should you have something to offer that is fact based and rebuts the presumptions in the report, then please by all means provide your position and your proofs.
    You're asking me for "proof" that we shouldn't set up Jim Crow laws for Muslims? I don't have any idea what I could produce that you would consider "proof" of that. It's just a basic moral development thing, not a piece of evidence.
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    Re: Military hit for correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    You're asking me for "proof" that we shouldn't set up Jim Crow laws for Muslims? I don't have any idea what I could produce that you would consider "proof" of that. It's just a basic moral development thing, not a piece of evidence.
    Clearly, it is problematic for you to read, digest and assimilate the simple written word. I said, "should you have something to offer that is fact based and rebuts the presumptions in the report, then please by all means provide your position and your proofs". My request does not exclude your opinion. It appears you have offered your opinion. Thanks...your version of morality does very little by way of providing security for those targeted by terrorism. For example:
    In the wake of the Fort Hood shootings, in which civilians were shot alongside soldiers in uniform, violent Islamist extremists elevated their discussions about a new target for terror: Military families. The military responded with operational security bulletins for families of uniformed service members, such as an Army guide for Family Readiness Groups: Army Families, because of their direct association with the U.S. military, present a lucrative target for terrorists. Moreover, many Army families endure periods of extended separation from their military member, which presents unique vulnerabilities to their
    safety.

    The Marine Corps posted a similar notice for their families on its Pacific Forces website:

    In December 2009, Al Qaeda gave instructions to all their operatives to target military personnel and their families. They were told to search for personal information, find out where their families live, and find the easiest way to target their workplaces. The warning likely was in response to information such as a posting on the Al Qaedaaffiliated al-Fallujah and Shamoukh al-Islam forums several days after AQAP underwear bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab attempted to blow up a Detroit-bound jetliner on Christmas Day 2009.

    An Islamist extremist on the forums urged sympathizers to obtain crew lists of U.S. Navy ships and “specify their family status and location of their family’s residence (wife-children).
    http://homeland.house.gov/sites/home...m_Military.pdf

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    Re: Military hit for correctness

    Seriously? Less than 5 plots a year and we should be acting like domestic Jihadist terrorism is a threat in this country? The death toll from American Jihadists is what again? 0? That's what I thought. The Taliban and Al Quaeda are our enemies, not Muslim US citizens.
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