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    Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious documents - The Washington Post


    Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious doc


    WASHINGTON — Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious documents.


    Bigger article coming as this just happened.



    i find it amazing how this administration is avoiding the government process to investigate the fast and furious debacle. Given this move, I am curious as to the opinions of others on this matter.
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Ahh here's one...


    Obama grants Holder request on 'Furious' documents as contempt vote looms | Fox News


    If holder ****ed up, why is this administration protecting him like this? We don't want guns to get in the wrong hands is what we hear from the far left. Mr. Holder, helped put guns into "the wrong hands" and American border patrolman died because of it.


    He should be held accountable, not protected.
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Well, you know I agree with you, Rev. This was all a botched plan to make it look like these guns came from the US, and to be a pretext for gun confiscations here in the US. What a shame, their little plan backfired. Now, they are playing the cover up game. Nothing like Executive Privilege to facilitate the cover up and break down the Constitution even farther. It is obvious this President has violated his oath to the Constitution. Impeach him.

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    The argument, of course, is that producing the genormous number of documents that Issa has requested would jeopardize many ongoing Justice Department investigations, and violote executive privilege.

    Did you attack attack Bush and his AG when they asserted executive privilege in connection with the DA scandal?
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Just think if Bush was the President and exerted this type of executive privilege to cover up a crime. I can just see what CNN and MSNBC would be saying. CNN is busy sugar coating Obama's latest executive action as we speak.

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The argument, of course, is that producing the genormous number of documents that Issa has requested would jeopardize many ongoing Justice Department investigations, and violote executive privilege.


    So Obama was first handed involved in fast and furious? Last case like this, was nixon and the watergate tapes, and we all know how the supreme court ruled then.


    If the president was involved, then Obama has a week argument for executive priveledge (holder already said he didn't know about it), if Obama wasn't involved then thier is no executive priveldge....


    Begs the question, WTF does Obama not want us to see?




    Did you attack attack Bush and his AG when they asserted executive privilege in connection with the DA scandal?


    I don't deal in jibber jabber. Bush isn't the president, nor the subject of this thread. Please for once try not to deflect to the president from almost 4 years ago, in order to give a pass to the one you like.
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    I agree; this thread isn't about Bush. It's about the current White House claiming executive privilege. Could we stick to this breaking news please?

    Ultimately, will the courts, as they did with Nixon/Watergate, have to decide? Is this a noble attempt to protect national security on the border? Was the President hands-on in the decision-making?

    This next news cycle is going to be very entertaining and enlightening, particularly with SCOTUS handing down some decisions tomorrow.

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    So Obama was first handed involved in fast and furious? Last case like this, was nixon and the watergate tapes, and we all know how the supreme court ruled then.


    If the president was involved, then Obama has a week argument for executive priveledge (holder already said he didn't know about it), if Obama wasn't involved then thier is no executive priveldge....


    Begs the question, WTF does Obama not want us to see?






    I don't deal in jibber jabber. Bush isn't the president, nor the subject of this thread. Please for once try not to deflect to the president from almost 4 years ago, in order to give a pass to the one you like.
    You seem to deal only in jibber jabber. You want to claim that the last time something like this happened was under Nixon ... is he president? No, the last time it happened -- TWICE -- was under Bush. Once it involved the AG scandal and the other time it involved the Valerie Plame scandal. Were those both admissions that of Bush's involvement? Obviously not, as the executive privilege extends to members of the executive branch -- not just the president himself.

    This isn't exactly a new thing. The privilege was first asserted by George Washington.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Obama can not allow the WHY of fast & fuzzy to come out. The stalling tactics, were working fine, for a year, but Obama can not let these documents get out, nor let Holder spill the beans. An order was definitely given from VERY high up in DOJ to stop ALL (federal, state and local) law enforcement from stopping the straw purchases of firearms allowed under the fast & fuzzy operation. To issue such an ILLEGAL order requires a REASON, that Obama can not let be known.
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    It looks as if the contempt voting will move forward.

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