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Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over F&F doc [W:116/226]

Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

Obusha handles everything just like his predecessor. This comes as no surprise to me. Just like the cops have the blue line and protect each other from answering foir their crimes, so it goes in Washington.
 
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iguanaman said:
I don't know but a good start would be a confession from you "lunatics" that GW Bush needlessly caused the deaths of 4000+ Americans in a botched search for WMD's in Iraq.
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What is wrong with you people, I am not a bush fan, I voted for him once, and thought he shat the bed on numerous occasions. Perhaps you can focus attention to the president at hand instead of the last moron who occupied the white house.

For the love of god. /facepalm
 
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treedancer said:
Take you fail pail and stick it but before you do look up what year "Operation Wide Receiver" was launched.:mrgreen:
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What you do in the privacy of your own home is none of my concern. I'm hearing about wide reciever. how many died from that operation?


At the time, under the Bush administration Department of Justice (DOJ), no arrests or indictments were made. After President Barack Obama took office in 2009, the DOJ reviewed Wide Receiver in September 2009[26] and found that guns had been allowed into the hands of suspected gun traffickers. Indictments began in 2010, over three years after Wide Receiver concluded. As of October 4, 2011, nine people had been charged with making false statements in acquisition of firearms and illicit transfer, shipment or delivery of firearms.[18] As of November, charges against one defendant had been dropped; five of them had pled guilty, and one had been sentenced to one year and one day in prison. Two of them remained fugitives.[23]


450 vs 2000, vs 0 deaths vs 200 + 1 border patrol agent. Survellience vs, failed loss of tracking..... If Bush was withholding information on it, I'd start the same thread. He's not president, so I am starting a thread on the dude intefering with the investigation, Obama.

You hacks are something.,

Game set match.
 
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AdamT said:
Apparently he doesn't get that. God only knows what he imagines the DOJ to be. Part of the judicial branch?
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You are just spinning lies now. Dismissed.
 
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Hugh_Akston said:
This will hurt Obama in the election, big time. The video in post 95 will be played over and over again and he'll have a tough time explaining his way out of this one. He is covering up for Holder who has already proven to be inept at his job. With his numbers already falling, this might just hand the presidency over to Romney.
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Maybe. At this point having ANYTHING other than the economy being in the tank and a huge federal debt/defict as "the news" is actually good for Obama. The MSM will play this as mean old GOP morons in congress attacking the wornderful, economic wizard Obama, while refusing to grant Obama his vague wishes to "get the economy going" by allowing MORE massive, yet random, gov't borrowing and spending.
 
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treedancer said:
Shush now. The revs trying to divert.:lamo
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Seriously, you keep running your mouth with adamt about bush, and I'm trying to divert? I hope those aren't bath salts you're on that **** will turn you into a zombie. :shock:
 
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AdamT said:
You seem to deal only in jibber jabber.
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Where can I submit my nomination for best line of the month?
 
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This IMO will sink the sitting President. If it's true that he authorized this (Which I suspect) he's cooked.

By the way if true, WHAT AN ASSHOLE!


Tim-
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
Maybe. At this point having ANYTHING other than the economy being in the tank and a huge federal debt/defict as "the news" is actually good for Obama. The MSM will play this as mean old GOP morons in congress attacking the wornderful, economic wizard Obama, while refusing to grant Obama his vague wishes to "get the economy going" by allowing MORE massive, yet random, gov't borrowing and spending.
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I believe the sound-byte term of the day is "witchhunt."
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
Maybe. At this point having ANYTHING other than the economy being in the tank and a huge federal debt/defict as "the news" is actually good for Obama. The MSM will play this as mean old GOP morons in congress attacking the wornderful, economic wizard Obama, while refusing to grant Obama his vague wishes to "get the economy going" by allowing MORE massive, yet random, gov't borrowing and spending.
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I agree.. one has to wonder if this is what Obama wants.. like you said anything to knock the economy off the front page.. Im sure flushing Holder to jail is secondary ..
 
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haymarket said:
Where can I submit my nomination for best line of the month?
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You should address the topic instead of cheering personal attacks. Why is it you have nothing to say regarding the topic?
 
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treedancer said:
Not to mention who was pres when this all started eh?:roll:
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Obama.......
 
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haymarket said:
Originally Posted by AdamT
You seem to deal only in jibber jabber.
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Where can I submit my nomination for best line of the month?
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Bend over. ;)
 
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Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

treedancer said:
Take you fail pail and stick it but before you do look up what year "Operation Wide Receiver" was launched.:mrgreen:
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That was not an active operation when Obama took over. His administration re-started the operation and they have to take responsibility for it.

Responsibility is the key word here.
 
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Hugh_Akston said:
This will hurt Obama in the election, big time. The video in post 95 will be played over and over again and he'll have a tough time explaining his way out of this one. He is covering up for Holder who has already proven to be inept at his job. With his numbers already falling, this might just hand the presidency over to Romney.
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I don't agree with this.

Any time something like this has come up, he just says it doesn't matter and the people say OK and it is over.

Nothing has stuck to him yet and I doubt this will either.
 
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Mason66 said:
That was not an active operation when Obama took over. His administration re-started the operation and they have to take responsibility for it.

Responsibility is the key word here.
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this is key, none of these folks want to adress the facts, instead they are too busy whining about bush, and comparing incomparable things to deflect from talking about the topic.
 
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Hugh_Akston said:
If you think that American's won't care about a botched federal program that resulted in the death of a federal officer that is being covered up by this President, you are gravely mistaken. This speaks to Obama's character. Remember, this was going to be the most transparent administration ever. :roll:
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Obama has no character and the American Public have accepted that. I don't think this will hurt him at all.
 
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mtlhdtodd said:
And why don't got and look at the stark differences between the two. It was flawed and stopped as soon as it was realized the tracking EVEN WITH COOPERATION OF MEXICO LAW ENFORCEMENT (which FnF did not do) was impossible. So what the incompetent Holder do he doubles down and goes for broke with Obulls#!ts blessing in an effort to justify the long gun registration requirements along the border states. Then amazingly we had those stats about the 80% traceable guns crap that they dreamed up.

Here let me help you you seem to need it

ATF Fast and Furious secret audio recordings - CBS News Investigates - CBS News
'Fast and Furious': How botched operation spawned fatal results - Washington Times
Documents: ATF used "Fast and Furious" to make the case for gun regulations - CBS News Investigates - CBS News
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None of that is relevant for Obama supporters. They can't hear what is going on inside their own heads while screaming BUSH BUSH BUSH all the time.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
this is key, none of these folks want to adress the facts, instead they are too busy whining about bush, and comparing incomparable things to deflect from talking about the topic.
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Don't you think if the President was white, the race card would be played?

After all only brown people wewre killed by this operation, apart from the Americans that died on the Mexican side of the border, and there have been quite a few, that nobody talks about.
 
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I think this thread might profit from a walk down memory lane, specifically, November of 2011.

From the St. Louis Examiner:

In 75 seconds of pointed questioning of Attorney General Holder (see sidebar video), Senator John Cornyn has perhaps left the excuse makers scrambling for something better. In that time, he asked Holder if he knew that Operation Wide Receiver (the Bush-era operation) actually did involve an attempt to track the firearms, while Fast and Furious did not. Cornyn then asked Holder if he knew that Operation Wide Receiver was run in conjunction with the Mexican government--Fast and Furious was kept secret from not only Mexico, but from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) attaché to Mexico, Darren Gil. Gil, in fact, after discovering on his own what was going on, was basically pushed into retirement when he balked at the near act of war of "walking" guns into Mexico without the Mexican government's knowledge or permission.

Under oath, Holder discredits 'Bush did it too' excuse for 'Gunwalker' - St. Louis gun rights | Examiner.com
 
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nota bene said:
I think this thread might profit from a walk down memory lane, specifically, November of 2011.

From the St. Louis Examiner:

In 75 seconds of pointed questioning of Attorney General Holder (see sidebar video), Senator John Cornyn has perhaps left the excuse makers scrambling for something better. In that time, he asked Holder if he knew that Operation Wide Receiver (the Bush-era operation) actually did involve an attempt to track the firearms, while Fast and Furious did not. Cornyn then asked Holder if he knew that Operation Wide Receiver was run in conjunction with the Mexican government--Fast and Furious was kept secret from not only Mexico, but from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) attaché to Mexico, Darren Gil. Gil, in fact, after discovering on his own what was going on, was basically pushed into retirement when he balked at the near act of war of "walking" guns into Mexico without the Mexican government's knowledge or permission.

Under oath, Holder discredits 'Bush did it too' excuse for 'Gunwalker' - St. Louis gun rights | Examiner.com
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All these facts, note none have been addressed.
 
Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

Sparky said:
Translation - Blah blah blah blah blah blah hey everyone look what Bush done 10 years ago blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah Bush blah Bush blah Bush blah I hate Bush so stop saying bad things about Obama blah blah blah.

Seriously what does the Iraq war have to do with Fast & Furious?
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Both were terribly bungled operations that resulted in needless American deaths. 4000+ for Iraq and 1 for F&F.
 
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iguanaman said:
Both were terribly bungled operations that resulted in needless American deaths. 4000+ for Iraq and 1 for F&F.
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again.. stay on subject.. youre not even close to making a valid point..
 
Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

iguanaman said:
Both were terribly bungled operations that resulted in needless American deaths. 4000+ for Iraq and 1 for F&F.
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derailing. why can't you discuss this operation that led to the death of 200 people, 2000 guns lost, and 1 border patrolman dead, and how the administration who claims had no knowledge of the incident, is now invoking "Executive privledge"?
 
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