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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

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    Well, since the 'department' is gathering supposed evidence on ITSELF I won't hold my breath....We the people need an independent prosecutor.
    AdamT has a tendency to confuse "justice" with "just us". ;-)
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

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    No, it isn't his job to do many investigations. It's his job to do AS MANY investigations as the facts warrant. It isn't his job to establish a permanent war court designed to trip up the president by mucking around in every conceivable decision.
    Yep. No facts, no warrant. No brain, no headache. Yes he can!
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

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    Well, since the 'department' is gathering supposed evidence on ITSELF I won't hold my breath....We the people need an independent prosecutor.
    Um, isn't Congress responsible for investigating ITSELF?
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

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    No, it isn't his job to do many investigations. It's his job to do AS MANY investigations as the facts warrant. It isn't his job to establish a permanent war court designed to trip up the president by mucking around in every conceivable decision.
    Since you arent the Oversight Chair, Im gathering your opinion is worth what John Nance Garner said the Vice Presidency is worth.
    His job is to oversee how congressional appropriations are spent. Which covers damn near everything.

    Where do you get off with these factual pronouncements? blah blargh derp herp I say its so. You ought to run for congress, you have bull****ting down cold.

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

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    Yep. No facts, no warrant. No brain, no headache. Yes he can!
    Yep, 11 hearings, 8,000 pages of documents, no evidence of any WH involvement -- no CASE.
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Since you arent the Oversight Chair, Im gathering your opinion is worth what John Nance Garner said the Vice Presidency is worth.
    His job is to oversee how congressional appropriations are spent. Which covers damn near everything.

    Where do you get off with these factual pronouncements? blah blargh derp herp I say its so. You ought to run for congress, you have bull****ting down cold.
    I gather your opinion is based on your experience as Oversight Chair?
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

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    I gather your opinion is based on your experience as Oversight Chair?
    No, I open my mind and read before I open my mouth.

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

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    I gather your opinion is based on your experience as Oversight Chair?

    I believe it should be called FELON Oversight Chair as long as Issa is squatting in it.The best Oversight Koch money can buy.
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, since the 'department' is gathering supposed evidence on ITSELF I won't hold my breath....We the people need an independent prosecutor.
    Reich on! An independant prosecutor that is a die-hard republican! That's what we need!

    An independant republican. Someone like Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity perhaps.

    You know. Someone who has no lean.

    Because we all know anyone who isn't a reichwinger or a tea-bagger can't be trusted.
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No, it isn't his job to do many investigations. It's his job to do AS MANY investigations as the facts warrant. It isn't his job to establish a permanent war court designed to trip up the president by mucking around in every conceivable decision.
    You're missing what "oversight" means. The whole idea is to be constantly vigilant for possible problems - investigating to assess if they are real problems and their extent.

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