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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Case closed.

    Libs.. they got nothing...if any of that was truly true.. Holder would be waving that in Issas face.. but its not true..

    us Conservatives call that deduction "thinking".... you may want to check it out
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Nancy Pelosi
    “They’re going after Eric Holder because he is supporting measures to overturn these voter suppression initiatives in the states… This is no accident, it is no coincidence. It is a plan on the part of Republicans.”

    Pelosi denied that Operation Fast and Furious is the real cause of the investigation and contempt charge. “These very same people who are holding him in contempt are part of a nationwide scheme to suppress the vote,” she said of her congressional colleagues. “It is connected. It’s clear as can be. It’s not only to monopolize his time, it’s to undermine his name.”

    “These folks want a plutocracy where instead of the choice of the many the checks of the very very few determine the outcomes of elections,” she said.
    Wow. She's apparently so far gone that she belongs in the CT threads now.

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Wow. She's apparently so far gone that she belongs in the CT threads now.

    Pelosi is so stupid its mind blowing.. shes the most vile human ever..

    she forgot to mention Holder pardoning the Black Panthers who had open voter suppresion in Philly

    Pelosi and Biden mus tbe sharing botox needles and injecting " high dose stupid" directly into their vacant skulls
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    'Ya know, Bush invoked executive privilege, and it was wrong, but that doesn't mean that people should turn their heads when Obama does it. Bush was a terrible president, but he is no longer the president. Obama is, and he is doing the same terrible presidential type stuff Bush did. Why are Democrats supporting this? Ahh, I think it's because Obama has a D after his name instead of an R.
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Wow. She's apparently so far gone that she belongs in the CT threads now.
    Let's go ahead and throw Pelosi in to the obstruction mix then, since she decided it's her place to try to grandstand during a criminal investigation.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    'Ya know, Bush invoked executive privilege, and it was wrong, but that doesn't mean that people should turn their heads when Obama does it. Bush was a terrible president, but he is no longer the president. Obama is, and he is doing the same terrible presidential type stuff Bush did. Why are Democrats supporting this? Ahh, I think it's because Obama has a D after his name instead of an R.
    I'm pretty sure the difference is that Bush invoked executive privilege over conversations between himself and Gonzales, not DOJ documents. Plus, I don't remember anyone ever questioning that Bush was involved in the discussions over the attorney firings. See the above Congressional Report about the last 40 years of Executive Privilege( http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/104284.pdf )

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    'Ya know, Bush invoked executive privilege, and it was wrong, but that doesn't mean that people should turn their heads when Obama does it. Bush was a terrible president, but he is no longer the president. Obama is, and he is doing the same terrible presidential type stuff Bush did. Why are Democrats supporting this? Ahh, I think it's because Obama has a D after his name instead of an R.
    Except that with the Bush EP it was done for two major issues. One was the Plame "leak" which turned out to be fabricated and they didn't even pursue the right person. The other issue was the dismissal of eight attorneys, perfectly within the purview of the executive(Clinton fired all of them with no incident as it should have been). This isn't in any way fabricated, the trail leads right to the feds and a bungled gun running scheme, people who shouldn't have been killed were, and any one of us would be in a heaping pile of **** had we done the exact same thing. I'm not excusing the Bush EPs and frankly those should be severely short in scope, but let's be honest, this is not apples to apples and we are talking about illicit weapons usage, purchase of such under federal watch, a suspect suspension of other bodies from doing their jobs which led to a huge bungle and loss of life, this is as criminal as it gets.

    EDIT - by the Plame leak being fabricated I am speaking to the fact that her "covert" status was suspect, not that the leak didn't happen.
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    I'll ask again, maybe I missed the answer in the scrum - has Obama actually asserted Executive Privilege, or is this just Holder floating that balloon for the Obama admin. If so, what basis did he give for the assertion of EP?

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    hahahaaaaa.. you said reliable source ( which you proved you have no idea what one is).. not yellow journalism out of liberal rags that are Obama cheerleading squads...

    thanks .. I need the laugh...
    Yes, but according to you that's every source that isn't a right wing blog. So the only thing you'll listen to is anything anti-Obama.


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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Nice try, Mr. I Love Obama, but even the president's own press secretary did not even try that angle. The angle being used is that these documents are INTERNAL executive branch communications basically about what not to disclose. LOL

    Link: Watch: Fox News Reporter Ed Henry Challenges Jay Carney on Executive Privilege During WH Press Briefing | Fox News Insider
    Well, Mr. I Hate Obama, I suggest you read the actual letter sent to the committee announcing the invocation of the privelege. http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...2011Letter.pdf
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