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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    [...] Then he should have came out and said, "We didn't know, we didn't pay attention. It's our fault, we're taking corrective steps, it won't happen ever again." And then clean house internally. It would have been done with. [...] If Holder came to him 14 months ago and claimed responsibility, took action, cleaned house - it'd be over. [...]
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    11/8/10 5:13 PM EST -- Rep. Darrell Issa is already eyeing a massive expansion of oversight for next year, including hundreds of hearings; creating new subcommittees; and launching fresh investigations into the bank bailout, the stimulus and, potentially, health care reform.

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    “I want seven hearings a week, times 40 weeks,” Issa said.

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    And they should if he/she lies to and/or stonewalls a congressional investigation.
    Which happened in 2007, when Dems held Harriet Miers and Josh Bolten in contempt of Congress for stonewalling their investigations of politically motivated firings in the DoJ.

    And when the full House voted on the two contempt votes in 2008, then-Minority Leader John Boehner (Ohio) led a Republican protest by walking off the House floor during the vote, and Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) called the investigation at issue, regarding the firing of seven U.S. attorneys, a “witch hunt.”
    During Bush Era, Parties Were Reversed on Contempt : Roll Call

    By the way, neither Miers or Bolten was actually prosecuted, which is why it's unlikely Holder will be.


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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Fox and Friends just reported (falsely) that Agent Terry was "gunned down by some of those Fast and Furious weapons".

    Only a few minutes after falsely reporting that Holder was held in contempt (the committee recommended a contempt citation).

    The IV drip of right wing propaganda continues . . . . (or maybe the Fox personalities are just stupid )

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over F&F doc [W:116/2

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
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    Bigger article coming as this just happened.



    i find it amazing how this administration is avoiding the government process to investigate the fast and furious debacle. Given this move, I am curious as to the opinions of others on this matter.

    What's to investigate? We know what happened. They botched an investigation and an agent lost his life. It's not like the DOJ invaded a country based on a lie.


    This is how the GOP avoids creating jobs and continues to deliberately tank the country.

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over F&F doc [W:116/2

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Seriously, you have to ask why the DOJ would not just hand over a ton of sensitive documents about the war against the cartel to a bunch of right wing political hacks? Do you have any idea what the cartel would do to get its hands on that kind of information? They would kill, kidnap, break in to federal buildings, whatever they need to do. In order to get access to that kind of information within the DOJ you get vetted and trained for years first and your name is never publicly released. They have extensive procedures to make sure everything is encrypted and transfers of the information are super secure, etc. You think they should just hand it over to some Republicans and their unpaid interns and whatnot? That would be insane. Hell, odds are that the Republicans would opt to just release whatever made Obama look bad to the press. They don't give a sh1t.
    The war against the cartel. What war? Who has declared war? Has this war been sanctioned by congress? The cartel is a bunch of thugs. And what do we do, we send then guns, we arm the cartel that's how much we are at war with the cartel. We are at war, yeah right, and while we're at war we send them guns. Now tell me again who we're at war with.

    The facts are that our stupid government directed under Obama, gave guns to the cartel, and never followed one gun to see in who's hands they ended up in. Except they found one at the scene of one of our agents murdered. And you could care less who authorized this stupidity, you could care less if that person is fired, you could care less if Holder has lied to congress etc etc. In fact you want their stupidly to go unchallenged, as though nothing happened and no one got killed. That's right you have such blind faith in our government that you want to completely ignore stupidity, incompetence, and coverups for that stupidity and incompetence. Just let the dumb bastards do what they want.

    Last, you talk about releasing sensitive documents, yet this administration releases (leaks) on every sensitive thing they do. Have you not heard
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Fox and Friends just reported (falsely) that Agent Terry was "gunned down by some of those Fast and Furious weapons".

    Only a few minutes after falsely reporting that Holder was held in contempt (the committee recommended a contempt citation).

    The IV drip of right wing propaganda continues . . . . (or maybe the Fox personalities are just stupid )

    Oh, Fox is gonna open the Kool Aide flood gates on this one. Plenty of red juice for the far-right base. And it's so easy for them when the face of 'contempt' is black.

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Ah. I know that is lie. What else do you know that is false?
    You know it is a lie? How do you know that?

    We do know that two of the weapons found at the shooting site were from F 'n' F. Where is the weapon which killed the US border guard and who fired the shot?

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Isn't it funny how liberals celebrate Watergate at every turn, yet this is so vastly more serious than Watergate?

    Most liberals don't even know what Watergate was about. They think it was some grand national-security threat or organized crime spree.

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Which happened in 2007, when Dems held Harriet Miers and Josh Bolten in contempt of Congress for stonewalling their investigations of politically motivated firings in the DoJ.
    The democrats wanted an investigation into "politically motivated firings"??

    This is a natural occurrence in politics yet the Dems wasted taxpayers time and money and got their base all excited by "politically motivated firings"!

    Now lives have been lost, there is an obvious coverup now reaching to the highest levels, but the Leftists get more excited about "politically motivated firtings.

    Hard to believe.

    By the way, neither Miers or Bolten was actually prosecuted, which is why it's unlikely Holder will be.
    They weren't prosecuted for firing someone? That's hard to believe as well.

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Fox and Friends just reported (falsely) that Agent Terry was "gunned down by some of those Fast and Furious weapons".

    Only a few minutes after falsely reporting that Holder was held in contempt (the committee recommended a contempt citation).

    The IV drip of right wing propaganda continues . . . . (or maybe the Fox personalities are just stupid )
    Fast and Furious: Eric Holder held in contempt - The Washington Post

    Eric Holder Held In Comtempt By House Committee | Breaking News for Black America

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