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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    They did not "lift the rules", they ordered ILLEGALLY that the current law be ignored, so that they could let KNOWN drug cartel straw buyers flood the area with thousands of TRACEABLE U.S. bought weapons, hoping for headlines like "Mexican cartels execute hundreds using legally purchased U.S. firearms" and then get very strict gun control laws passed since even most, hard core, gun toting, rednecks hate the Mexican drug cartel thugs. ;-)
    That is symantice. It had the same end result.

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Evidence of what? What crime do you think has been committed?
    WHO authorized fast & fuzzy and WHY. Why did about 2,000 guns, their serial numbers carefully logged by federal agents, get sold to KNOWN cartel straw buyers and then suddenly "disappear", with NO arrests or recovery of the weapons? "Whoopsie", just won't cut it any more. Hmm...
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Evidence of what? What crime do you think has been committed?
    He's already talked about that, and asking for evidence? Silly considering we won't know if there's actual evidence until all the docs are released. Btw, why withhold them in the first place? If there are a lot of them, so what? Release them to congress and let them chew on them. If they contain sensitive information, should have just said that from the beginning and released all the ones that didn't.

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Evidence of what?

    Or if that question is not clear,

    What kind of evidence? What crime will this purported evidence prove?
    You do not know that hundreds of people were killed as a result of this F & F program?

    Isn't it wise to see how and why this happened and who is responsible for the deaths of all these people?

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over F&F doc [W:116/2

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Can you describe these beans? Are they magic beans?

    Also, how do you know that the DOJ was about to spill them? Link? Psychic network? Radio transmission from Mars?
    Please, do you honestly beleive that over 2,000 guns, their serial numbers all carefully logged, all of a sudden just "walked" without any arrests or recovery of the guns? Maybe 50 in a single botched delivery, but not over 2,000 guns, sold over several months, from multiple sales locations and in multiple states, that is WAY beyond the realm of an "accident", "error in judgement" or "mistake" .
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    He doesn't have the right to ignore the subpoena. If he deems it illegal, then it goes to the courts.
    Oooh, sorry, wrong answer.

    Under [Eastland v. United States Servicemen's Fund], Courts generally do not hear motions to quash Congressional subpoenas; even when executive branch officials refuse to comply, the Courts tend to rule that such matters are "political questions" unsuitable for judicial remedy.

    Contempt of Congress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    He's already talked about that, and asking for evidence? Silly considering we won't know if there's actual evidence until all the docs are released. [...]
    I see. You won't know if there's any evidence until you get all the evidence. And I suppose you wont know what crime has been committed until you get all the evidence.

    Of course there is always the crime of not producing all the evidence. Even if there isn't any. It's all so clear now . . . . .

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You do not know that hundreds of people were killed as a result of this F & F program?
    No, I don't know that. What is your ... ahem ... evidence?

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    No, I don't know that. What is your ... ahem ... evidence?
    If you don't even know that, why are you on this thread?

    Do you know, for example, that a border guard was killed with one of these weapons?

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over F&F doc [W:116/2

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Please, do you honestly beleive that over 2,000 guns, their serial numbers all carefully logged, all of a sudden just "walked" without any arrests or recovery of the guns? Maybe 50 in a single botched delivery, but not over 2,000 guns, sold over several months, from multiple sales locations and in multiple states, that is WAY beyond the realm of an "accident", "error in judgement" or "mistake" .
    Your argument makes no sense to me. Arrests and recoveries have already been proven (with photos even). You seem to be the only one talking about "accident", "error in judgement" or "mistake". Therefore I will leave you to argue with yourself. Have a nice day

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