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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Exactly so whatever gun control there was, he lifted, so please explain to me how gun control would have prevented this from happening, when the government lifts the rules.
    They did not "lift the rules", they ordered ILLEGALLY that the current law be ignored, so that they could let KNOWN drug cartel straw buyers flood the area with thousands of TRACEABLE U.S. bought weapons, hoping for headlines like "Mexican cartels execute hundreds using legally purchased U.S. firearms" and then get very strict gun control laws passed since even most, hard core, gun toting, rednecks hate the Mexican drug cartel thugs. ;-)
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Just think if Bush was the President and exerted this type of executive privilege to cover up a crime. I can just see what CNN and MSNBC would be saying. CNN is busy sugar coating Obama's latest executive action as we speak.
    Obviously you are not familiar with the issue that was started by Bush. And, apparently MSNBC and CNN didn't say much or you would be quoting them.

    Another conservative who thinks it was okay for Bush to use Executive Action, but not Obama. Still holding Obama to a stricter code? Why am I not surprised?



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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Evidence Holder is hiding from Congress with the help of the POTUS.
    Evidence of what?

    Or if that question is not clear,

    What kind of evidence? What crime will this purported evidence prove?

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    My question is this: Does the AG have the right to ignore a subpoena?
    Obviously it would depend upon the subpoena. If the subpoena were illegal, or beyond the scope of Congress' authority, then certainly.

    Congress -- unless sitting in some type of special session, such as impeachment -- is not a court of law, nor a judge. I would imagine that their subpoena's are subject to judicial review in a real court of law.

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    That would be correct, assuming that is the only reason it was claimed. Do you have any evidence that is the case?
    That's the WHOLE POINT, simply to keep the evidence from getting out. No evidence, no problem. No brain, no headache.
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over F&F doc [W:116/2

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    [...] These morons in the DOJ were finally about to have to spill the beans, so king Obama had to call a time-out. [...]
    Can you describe these beans? Are they magic beans?

    Also, how do you know that the DOJ was about to spill them? Link? Psychic network? Radio transmission from Mars?

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    They did not "lift the rules", they ordered ILLEGALLY that the current law be ignored, so that they could let KNOWN drug cartel straw buyers flood the area with thousands of TRACEABLE U.S. bought weapons, hoping for headlines like "Mexican cartels execute hundreds using legally purchased U.S. firearms" and then get very strict gun control laws passed since even most, hard core, gun toting, rednecks hate the Mexican drug cartel thugs. ;-)
    The conspiracy theory forum is a few floors down.

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Obviously it would depend upon the subpoena. If the subpoena were illegal, or beyond the scope of Congress' authority, then certainly.

    Congress -- unless sitting in some type of special session, such as impeachment -- is not a court of law, nor a judge. I would imagine that their subpoena's are subject to judicial review in a real court of law.
    He doesn't have the right to ignore the subpoena. If he deems it illegal, then it goes to the courts. Holder has forced the hand of Congress, and contempt charges will be charged and the matter decided.

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That's the WHOLE POINT, simply to keep the evidence from getting out. No evidence, no problem. No brain, no headache.
    Evidence of what? What crime do you think has been committed?

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Obviously it would depend upon the subpoena. If the subpoena were illegal, or beyond the scope of Congress' authority, then certainly.

    Congress -- unless sitting in some type of special session, such as impeachment -- is not a court of law, nor a judge. I would imagine that their subpoena's are subject to judicial review in a real court of law.
    Exactly. That's why Holder/DOJ pretended to go along with the congressional investigation, for over a year, when it became clear that was not working well, they switched to plan Z, have Obama invoke EP, to force a "special prosecutor" and a lenghty "court ordered" delay to push this fast & fuzzy mess until well beyond the 2012 elections. After that, they just cave and toss out a scapegoat to "own up" to "making an error in judgement" and then retire, just like Greely did in the GSA million dollar party mess. Yes he can!
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