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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
    This will hurt Obama in the election, big time. The video in post 95 will be played over and over again and he'll have a tough time explaining his way out of this one. He is covering up for Holder who has already proven to be inept at his job. With his numbers already falling, this might just hand the presidency over to Romney.
    I don't agree with this.

    Any time something like this has come up, he just says it doesn't matter and the people say OK and it is over.

    Nothing has stuck to him yet and I doubt this will either.

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    That was not an active operation when Obama took over. His administration re-started the operation and they have to take responsibility for it.

    Responsibility is the key word here.


    this is key, none of these folks want to adress the facts, instead they are too busy whining about bush, and comparing incomparable things to deflect from talking about the topic.
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
    If you think that American's won't care about a botched federal program that resulted in the death of a federal officer that is being covered up by this President, you are gravely mistaken. This speaks to Obama's character. Remember, this was going to be the most transparent administration ever.
    Obama has no character and the American Public have accepted that. I don't think this will hurt him at all.

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by mtlhdtodd View Post
    And why don't got and look at the stark differences between the two. It was flawed and stopped as soon as it was realized the tracking EVEN WITH COOPERATION OF MEXICO LAW ENFORCEMENT (which FnF did not do) was impossible. So what the incompetent Holder do he doubles down and goes for broke with Obulls#!ts blessing in an effort to justify the long gun registration requirements along the border states. Then amazingly we had those stats about the 80% traceable guns crap that they dreamed up.

    Here let me help you you seem to need it

    ATF Fast and Furious secret audio recordings - CBS News Investigates - CBS News
    'Fast and Furious': How botched operation spawned fatal results - Washington Times
    Documents: ATF used "Fast and Furious" to make the case for gun regulations - CBS News Investigates - CBS News
    None of that is relevant for Obama supporters. They can't hear what is going on inside their own heads while screaming BUSH BUSH BUSH all the time.

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    this is key, none of these folks want to adress the facts, instead they are too busy whining about bush, and comparing incomparable things to deflect from talking about the topic.
    Don't you think if the President was white, the race card would be played?

    After all only brown people wewre killed by this operation, apart from the Americans that died on the Mexican side of the border, and there have been quite a few, that nobody talks about.

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    I think this thread might profit from a walk down memory lane, specifically, November of 2011.

    From the St. Louis Examiner:

    In 75 seconds of pointed questioning of Attorney General Holder (see sidebar video), Senator John Cornyn has perhaps left the excuse makers scrambling for something better. In that time, he asked Holder if he knew that Operation Wide Receiver (the Bush-era operation) actually did involve an attempt to track the firearms, while Fast and Furious did not. Cornyn then asked Holder if he knew that Operation Wide Receiver was run in conjunction with the Mexican government--Fast and Furious was kept secret from not only Mexico, but from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) attaché to Mexico, Darren Gil. Gil, in fact, after discovering on his own what was going on, was basically pushed into retirement when he balked at the near act of war of "walking" guns into Mexico without the Mexican government's knowledge or permission.

    Under oath, Holder discredits 'Bush did it too' excuse for 'Gunwalker' - St. Louis gun rights | Examiner.com

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I think this thread might profit from a walk down memory lane, specifically, November of 2011.

    From the St. Louis Examiner:

    In 75 seconds of pointed questioning of Attorney General Holder (see sidebar video), Senator John Cornyn has perhaps left the excuse makers scrambling for something better. In that time, he asked Holder if he knew that Operation Wide Receiver (the Bush-era operation) actually did involve an attempt to track the firearms, while Fast and Furious did not. Cornyn then asked Holder if he knew that Operation Wide Receiver was run in conjunction with the Mexican government--Fast and Furious was kept secret from not only Mexico, but from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) attaché to Mexico, Darren Gil. Gil, in fact, after discovering on his own what was going on, was basically pushed into retirement when he balked at the near act of war of "walking" guns into Mexico without the Mexican government's knowledge or permission.

    Under oath, Holder discredits 'Bush did it too' excuse for 'Gunwalker' - St. Louis gun rights | Examiner.com



    All these facts, note none have been addressed.
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    Translation - Blah blah blah blah blah blah hey everyone look what Bush done 10 years ago blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah Bush blah Bush blah Bush blah I hate Bush so stop saying bad things about Obama blah blah blah.

    Seriously what does the Iraq war have to do with Fast & Furious?
    Both were terribly bungled operations that resulted in needless American deaths. 4000+ for Iraq and 1 for F&F.

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Both were terribly bungled operations that resulted in needless American deaths. 4000+ for Iraq and 1 for F&F.
    again.. stay on subject.. youre not even close to making a valid point..

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Both were terribly bungled operations that resulted in needless American deaths. 4000+ for Iraq and 1 for F&F.



    derailing. why can't you discuss this operation that led to the death of 200 people, 2000 guns lost, and 1 border patrolman dead, and how the administration who claims had no knowledge of the incident, is now invoking "Executive privledge"?
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