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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    I challenge you to find one quote from me that changed the thread topic from F&F to Iraq... oh wait you can't because you were lying like ALL LIBERALS do.

    Just like you lied when you stated that F&F started under Bush.

    Why do ALL LIBERALS lie all the time about everything. Are they just compulsive liars? Do they know they're lying while the're always lying or are they just in denile. Seriously why can't Liberals be honest?
    Why can't you be honest instead of lying, saying that "all liberals lie all the time about everything?"

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    again.. Iraq was about oil for food, sanctions being broken, and illegal oil transfers post 9/11 for tereror funding.. and and your hero Clinton was bombing daily.. again this is not the subject so please stay on subject
    Sort of...those were the excuses, though the "terror funding" was sketchy at best.

    I don't necessarily disagree that a war in Iraq would have been necessary, but I don't think it was necessary when it happened, and I don't think it was particularly well planned. Again, for another time.


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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Why can't you be honest instead of lying, saying that "all liberal lie all the time about everything?"
    Because sean/rush/et al say it everyday....silly.
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    This will hurt Obama in the election, big time. The video in post 95 will be played over and over again and he'll have a tough time explaining his way out of this one. He is covering up for Holder who has already proven to be inept at his job. With his numbers already falling, this might just hand the presidency over to Romney.
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Sort of...those were the excuses, though the "terror funding" was sketchy at best.

    I don't necessarily disagree that a war in Iraq would have been necessary, but I don't think it was necessary when it happened, and I don't think it was particularly well planned. Again, for another time.
    cool.. no problem... but i hate when people just say "it was abotu WMDs" it was not GWB who said he had them, but everyone, Clinton did also.. all intelligence said he had them and even Saddam said he had them..and he used them on the Kurds.. I think they went into Syria and so do many as El Beridei game him a year to get rid of them to another Baathist regime..but thats another subject and I want this to stay on subject..

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

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    Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over F&F doc [W:116/226]Let's cease with the personal attacks, baiting, flaming and trolling. This is your one and only warning.
    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    As I pointed out above, Bush specifically asserted the privelege with respect to internal DOJ communications.
    Sorry. No dice. What you quoted was a decision by Bush to stop his own Party from going after Bill Clinton's fundraising after Clinton was out of office. And then his own party dropped it. This was not the Executive covering its own ass, but rather covering a prior President. It would have been a very sticky issue, but the most important aspect is that Bush was not further challenged on it. Essentially, he defied no one, and told his own party to move on. Yes, the DoJ had documents. But those documents were privileged communications from a prior President. It is not the same as we have now.

    You second link went to attempts by such as Reid and Shumer to hold Presidential advisors such as Carl Rove and Harriet Myers in contempt. Such as Rove and Myers were covered by EP.
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
    This will hurt Obama in the election, big time.
    Quite the contrary. What people care about is the economy. What pisses them off is Congress dicking around with this kind of political witch hunt when it should be dealing with real problems. See Obama ram it up the GOP's collective ass:

    "With millions of Americans still struggling to pay the bills, Republicans announced at the beginning of this year that one of their top priorities was to investigate the Administration and damage the President politically. We are ten days away from the expiration of federal transportation funding which guarantees jobs for almost a million construction workers because Congress hasn't passed a transportation bill. We are eleven days away from nearly seven and a half million students seeing their loan rates double because Congress hasn't acted to stop it. But instead of creating jobs or strengthening the middle-class, Congressional Republicans are spending their time on a politically-motivated, taxpayer-funded election-year fishing expedition.

    The problem of gunwalking was a field-driven tactic that dated back to the previous Administration, and it was this Administration's Attorney General who ended it. In fact, the Justice Department has spent the past fourteen months accommodating Congressional investigators, producing 7,600 pages of documents, and testifying at eleven Congressional hearings. Yet, Republicans insist on moving forward with an effort that Republicans and objective legal experts have noted is purely political.

    Given the economic challenges facing the country, we believe that House Republicans should work with the rest of Congress and the President to create more jobs, not more political theater."
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Sorry. No dice. What you quoted was a decision by Bush to stop his own Party from going after Bill Clinton's fundraising after Clinton was out of office.
    Irrelevant to the issue of privelege.
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Quite the contrary. What people care about is the economy. What pisses them off is Congress dicking around with this kind of political witch hunt when it should be dealing with real problems. See Obama ram it up the GOP's collective ass:
    Sorry, but Congress is not just about passing Laws that the President will not sign. When the President decides to stop dicking around, then maybe things can get better.

    And OBTW, a bad economy is not a blank check for a corrupt Attorney General to dick the Country either.

    Hopefully, we ram this up Obama's ass. If there's still room left, that is.

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