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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Let me interject. Obama and Holder have maintained that Obama was not part of the planning of FF, nor aware of it while in progress. Let's assume that is true. Holder has admitted under oath that he had discussed the matter, since the crap hit the fan, but after FF was stopped, with Obama in passing. And likely more with WH underlings.

    It is possible that some EP would apply to the discussions with underlings in the WH, and that this is not an admission that Obama knew about FF prior. But Holder himself, and the DoJ, is entitled to no EP per se. Only those communications with the President or his chosen advisors might be covered.

    But not 73,000 + documents.
    I hear ya but we both know this was about taking guns aways from Americans , a stated goal of Obama and Holder who both share that goal.. so I dont believe there was not high level talk about the goals of F and F..

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Ahh yes, defend your god king at all costs....


    200 people dead, 2000 guns purposefully given to criminals, one border patrol agent dead, and you call it a "fishing expedition".... Kinda pathetic dude.
    You know life means nothing to people with an agenda Rev. War Theater deaths aren't "a shame" in the true sense of loss, they are "a shame" because they can either be used to make the Republican "look bad" or they make the Democrat look bad, gun deaths are only "a shame" as far as the pawns or "little people" if you will can advance the football on gun control.

    We all know that these deaths don't "matter" because the agenda was the important thing, the Democrat is not to be questioned, and the good little "pawns" or "little people" served their purpose, but we evil people who want accountability and are disgusted by the "collateral damage" or more properly stated, loss of innocent life are the bad guys because of our distaste for people killed due to illigitimate and in fact ill advised government overreach.
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by treedancer View Post
    Are you saying that Holders not part of the "executive branch "of the Government?

    executive privilege is the power claimed by the President of the United States and other members of the executive branch to resist certain subpoenas and other interventions by the legislative and judicial branches of government



    Don't you want to find out what happened that led our government to send 2000 guns to criminals in mexico, who killed 200 people and a border patrol agent, or is protecting Obama more important to you?


    so much for Obama's "transparency" promise...
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    You know life means nothing to people with an agenda Rev. War Theater deaths aren't "a shame" in the true sense of loss, they are "a shame" because they can either be used to make the Republican "look bad" or they make the Democrat look bad, gun deaths are only "a shame" as far as the pawns or "little people" if you will can advance the football on gun control.

    We all know that these deaths don't "matter" because the agenda was the important thing, the Democrat is not to be questioned, and the good little "pawns" or "little people" served their purpose, but we evil people who want accountability and are disgusted by the "collateral damage" or more properly stated, loss of innocent life are the bad guys because of our distaste for people killed due to illigitimate and in fact ill advised government overreach.


    Maybe they "don't do bodycounts"....
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Didn't Obama lambaste Bush for invoking EP on the US Attorney deal?



    Why yes...yes he did.

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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    I don't know but a good start would be a confession from you "lunatics" that GW Bush needlessly caused the deaths of 4000+ Americans in a botched search for WMD's in Iraq.
    again.. Iraq was about oil for food, sanctions being broken, and illegal oil transfers post 9/11 for tereror funding.. and and your hero Clinton was bombing daily.. again this is not the subject so please stay on subject
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    indeed...



    “Fast and Furious” was launched in Arizona in late 2009 by Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives officials, with help from the U.S. attorney’s office there. The operation’s targets bought nearly 2,000 weapons over several months, and many of those purchases ATF knew about ahead of time. But for reasons that are still in dispute, most of the weapons sold were never followed, and high-powered weapons tied to the investigation ended up at crime scenes in Mexico and the United States, including the December 2010 murder of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry."






    What will it take for the lunatic fringe to critisize their administration?
    Take you fail pail and stick it but before you do look up what year "Operation Wide Receiver" was launched.
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by treedancer View Post
    Are you saying that Holders not part of the "executive branch "of the Government?

    executive privilege is the power claimed by the President of the United States and other members of the executive branch to resist certain subpoenas and other interventions by the legislative and judicial branches of government
    Apparently he doesn't get that. God only knows what he imagines the DOJ to be. Part of the judicial branch?
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Maybe they "don't do bodycounts"....
    Sure they do.
    Iraq Body Count
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    Re: Justice Dept says president has exerted executive privilege over Fast and Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Maybe they "don't do bodycounts"....
    Only when they can pin it on the other guy. Apparently they don't like their own medicine.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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