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    Re: Taliban to U.S.: End drone strikes in Pakistan, or no more polio vaccines

    How disgusting.
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    Re: Taliban to U.S.: End drone strikes in Pakistan, or no more polio vaccines

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    From CNN:

    A Taliban commander in northwest Pakistan has announced a ban on polio vaccines for children as long as the United States continues its campaign of drone strikes in the region, according to a statement by the Taliban. "Polio drops will be banned in North Waziristan until the drones strikes are stopped," said the statement, released Saturday.

    ...Bahadur commands the faction of the Taliban based in North Waziristan, the district Washington believes is the main safe haven for the Haqqani network and other militant groups fueling the insurgency in Afghanistan.
    It's not clear how Bahadur's decree will impact the polio eradication campaign in North Waziristan or in nearby districts, where he doesn't wield as much power.

    Taliban to U.S.: End drone strikes in Pakistan, or no more polio vaccines - CNN.com

    Sickening threat, so I hope it's an impotent one.
    This threat amounts to holding the civilian population as de facto war shields. If carried out, it would constitute a war crime. Responsiblity for the consequences would rest entirely with the Taliban.

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    Re: Taliban to U.S.: End drone strikes in Pakistan, or no more polio vaccines

    I just do not understand some people at times. This is just truly disturbing.
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    Re: Taliban to U.S.: End drone strikes in Pakistan, or no more polio vaccines

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    More hiding behind women and children.

    I'm not surprised.
    Exactly. It's always like that with them, always! always! something must be very wrong with that sort of mentality because I can not believe any religion says that to do that is acceptable!

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    Re: Taliban to U.S.: End drone strikes in Pakistan, or no more polio vaccines

    For me, it is not enough to state my outrage at this situation I wanted to understand more and I found this background information helpful.

    This grandstanding ploy seems to coincide with an appeal to be heard on behalf of "Dr. Afridi, who was recently convicted by a tribal court and sentenced to 33 years in prison. In March and April 2011, Dr. Afridi ran a vaccination campaign in Abbottabad that was intended to determine covertly whether Bin Laden lived in a house in the city. Dr. Afridi failed to obtain a DNA sample, a senior American official said, but did help establish that Bin Laden’s local protector, known as the “courier,” was inside the Bin Laden compound.

    Dr. Afridi was arrested three weeks after an American Navy SEAL team raided the house on May 2, 2011, and killed the Qaeda leader. American officials said Dr. Afridi had been working with the C.I.A. for several years, at a time when he was leading polio vaccination efforts in Khyber Agency, a corner of the tribal belt that harbors a rare strain of the disease.

    Dr. Afridi is in prison in Peshawar, where the authorities have acknowledged he faces death threats from fellow inmates. An appeal filed by his family was to be heard on Wednesday."
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/19/wo...-pakistan.html


    The vaccines have help a great many people in this region where polio had reached Unicef says that 143,000 of the area’s 161,000 children younger than 5 were reached in the last round of oral vaccinations from June 4 to 6. Health officials say that in active polio zones it is vital that children receive several doses of vaccine over time.

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    Re: Taliban to U.S.: End drone strikes in Pakistan, or no more polio vaccines

    Disgusting, but sadly not surprising. There is nothing that fires me up as much as seeing children being used as pawns in maniacal games.

    They are willing to risk everything to continue their fight. Just madness.
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    Re: Taliban to U.S.: End drone strikes in Pakistan, or no more polio vaccines

    This is how barbaric these people are and Barak Obama thinks we can negotiate with them? I've also heard first hand that they have cut off arms of people who have recieved vaccination shots in that arm. They also cut out tongues of children who take candy from Nato soldiers. I honestly dont think you can negotiate with people this radical, there is really only one place you can send them where they wont be bothering anyone.
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    Re: Taliban to U.S.: End drone strikes in Pakistan, or no more polio vaccines

    Faux umbrage and tongue wagging. The very article cited says it is unsure just how important this warlord is in the region. He could have 12 followers.

    Attempting to blame the acts of a few on their religion would be like calling all Baptists to account because of the Topeka lunatics, all soldiers for the unlawful kill teams, all Catholics for a few pedophile Priests. Quit repeating the same bogus rants, get some new material.

    I guess I am a cynic but I'd bet a shiny nickle most here could really care less about children and vaccines, but it is a good reason to trot out the same tired pony to whip.

    For a several generations the polio vaccine has existed, no great push to vaccinate the kids of a third world dung heap, now that we shoot AT missiles at people who seldom see it coming... how 'brave' is that? we seem intent to put a good face on our actions. More so to play at home than in Pakistan to be sure.

    While I don't condone 'hiding behind children' I don't see as noble and brave shooting people with drones, the operator a half world away. The self righteous ranters here don't seem to see that creates more terrorists than it kills and in nations far away from the battlefield.

    The title of the thread is incorrect. 'A MINOR Warlord threatens to stop polio drops, many think he isn't powerful enough to stop his own piss'

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    Re: Taliban to U.S.: End drone strikes in Pakistan, or no more polio vaccines

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Faux umbrage and tongue wagging. The very article cited says it is unsure just how important this warlord is in the region. He could have 12 followers.

    Attempting to blame the acts of a few on their religion would be like calling all Baptists to account because of the Topeka lunatics, all soldiers for the unlawful kill teams, all Catholics for a few pedophile Priests. Quit repeating the same bogus rants, get some new material.

    I guess I am a cynic but I'd bet a shiny nickle most here could really care less about children and vaccines, but it is a good reason to trot out the same tired pony to whip.

    For a several generations the polio vaccine has existed, no great push to vaccinate the kids of a third world dung heap, now that we shoot AT missiles at people who seldom see it coming... how 'brave' is that? we seem intent to put a good face on our actions. More so to play at home than in Pakistan to be sure.

    While I don't condone 'hiding behind children' I don't see as noble and brave shooting people with drones, the operator a half world away. The self righteous ranters here don't seem to see that creates more terrorists than it kills and in nations far away from the battlefield.

    The title of the thread is incorrect. 'A MINOR Warlord threatens to stop polio drops, many think he isn't powerful enough to stop his own piss'
    The title is the required one: CNN's.

    And, yes, you are both cynical and mistaken if you think that I created this thread to "trot out the same tired pony to whip." Maybe that's why you would, but I posted it because I am horrified that children are being used in this way. If you read the article, then you know that Pakistan is one of only three countries that has yet to eradicate polio. This is evil. This is the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

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    Re: Taliban to U.S.: End drone strikes in Pakistan, or no more polio vaccines

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    While I don't condone 'hiding behind children' I don't see as noble and brave shooting people with drones, the operator a half world away. The self righteous ranters here don't seem to see that creates more terrorists than it kills and in nations far away from the battlefield.
    Notquiteright, the issue here is that certain factions of the Taliban are prepared to use their own children as pawns. That alone is repulsive and shows the mindset of some of these individuals. They care so little about their own children that they would hold them to ransom. As for drone attacks, yes they do kill militiants and unfortunately civillians are killed too, but that in no way excuses the situation that the Taliban are proposing here. To some people, these civillians are all considered instruments of war and not worth grieving over. I do not support that line of thinking.

    The Taliban are cutting off their nose to spite their face. What valuable lesson will the children have learnt if there is a fullblown polio outbreak, and what was their crime again? Who is ultimately responsible if there is an outbreak due to non vaccination?

    The Taliban are. They made the call to halt the polio vaccines, it's on their head and responsibility for the consequences rests entirely with them. No one else.
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