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    Re: Brotherhood's Morsi Claims Victory in Egypt Election

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    You concluded all that about Muslims (a group encompassing a billion people the world over) from an election in Egypt?
    Sure. All the evidence points in that direction. In every Mid-Eastern country that has had a revolution in recent years, the government's were replaced with anti-western regimes.
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    Re: Brotherhood's Morsi Claims Victory in Egypt Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    The funny thing is that the Muslim Brotherhood in this instance represents the progressive alternative to military dictatorship.
    It's like being the skinniest kid at fat camp.

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    Re: Brotherhood's Morsi Claims Victory in Egypt Election

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Sure. All the evidence points in that direction. In every Mid-Eastern country that has had a revolution in recent years, the government's were replaced with anti-western regimes.
    Barack Obama: 'Egypt's transition to democracy is beginning'

    Barack Obama has said the resignation of President Hosni Mubarak reflected the will of the Egyptian people and called on the country's powerful military to ensure a transition to "genuine democracy."

    11:18AM GMT 12 Feb 2011

    Obama spoke after Mubarak handed over to the Egyptian military after an 18-day popular uprising, with Washington now facing deep uncertainty and huge challenges in dealing with a potentially volatile power shift.

    "The people of Egypt have spoken," Obama told reporters. "Egyptians have made it clear that nothing less than genuine democracy will carry the day."

    He acknowledged that this was not the end, but just the beginning of Egypt's transition to democracy, saying, "There will be many difficult days ahead and many questions remain unanswered."

    Video: Barack Obama: 'Egypt's transition to democracy is beginning' - Telegraph
    I think he's got his answer, Theocracy NOT Democracy!
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    Re: Brotherhood's Morsi Claims Victory in Egypt Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    It's like being the skinniest kid at fat camp.
    Not really. Your ignorant view is just too simplistic and misleading to understand the reality of the situation. Middle eastern politics is apparently too complicated for you to understand.
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    Re: Brotherhood's Morsi Claims Victory in Egypt Election

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It kills the argument that Muslims aren't terrorists and supports the argument that most Muslims support anti-western terrorism.
    So you take the slim marginal victory of a guy from an extremist group over a guy from the government that the people just ousted to be an inidication that Muslims are terrorists strong enough to "kill" the notion they're not.

    I'm sorry to say that if one actually believes that then they never thought the argument wasn't "killed" to begin with and is simply reaching to justify their own, factually wrong, world view.

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    Re: Brotherhood's Morsi Claims Victory in Egypt Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    I think he's got his answer, Theocracy NOT Democracy!
    Actually, no, Obama is for letting the people of Egypt decide what they want, while you would rather support military dictatorships.

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    Re: Brotherhood's Morsi Claims Victory in Egypt Election

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Actually, no, Obama is for letting the people of Egypt decide what they want, while you would rather support military dictatorships.
    So you would support a Theocracy that abuses women, human and gay rights?
    "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." - John Adams

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    Re: Brotherhood's Morsi Claims Victory in Egypt Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    So you would support a Theocracy that abuses women, human and gay rights?
    I would support a countries right to democratically elect its own leader.

    If said leader takes the country in a direction that is counter to US interests then I support withdrawing aid and support for that country.

    What I don't support, and will never support, is the belief that the United States should forcefully overrule through might and power a countries democratic process simply because we don't like the results of it.

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    Re: Brotherhood's Morsi Claims Victory in Egypt Election

    It smells like the USA will soon be paying both sides to "make nice" as we seem prone to do in all disputes in the middle east. ;-)
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Brotherhood's Morsi Claims Victory in Egypt Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So you take the slim marginal victory of a guy from an extremist group over a guy from the government that the people just ousted to be an inidication that Muslims are terrorists strong enough to "kill" the notion they're not.

    I'm sorry to say that if one actually believes that then they never thought the argument wasn't "killed" to begin with and is simply reaching to justify their own, factually wrong, world view.
    Was there any seperation of the Nazis and the German people? No, there wasn't.

    Same scenario here. Political correctness isn't going to change that reality.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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