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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhapsody1447 View Post
    You don't believe you singled out Republicans. Did you not just write this?


    I answered your post saying repulicans were not in the majority. I also told you I link how it came out, and how republicans sat on the sidelines. In a conversation, one comment leads to about. This is what we call context.

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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The POLICY is the same just that, in this case, it is STATE LAW, rather than union policy, that dictates SENIORITY, not performance, be used as THE layoff criteria. ;-)
    Not entirely. Not with the state, not with unions, and not with any other company who as last in first out. Poor performers can be let go in all of them.

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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Face it: Neither party has a workable plan to balance the budget and get us back on track economically. The only plan either of them has is to blame the other party for the deficit, for unemployment, for every other ill that besets us. Neither Republicans nor Democrats have a plan to do more than shift the blame.
    This sadly is too true. Sadly.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    That is simply false. The only underperforming teachers who were fired are those with little to no seniority, not those with a lot of seniority. So all underperforming teachers were not fired before they fired the teacher of the year.
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    School spokesperson Gabe Ross told News 10 that who gets laid off is mandated by state law and is based on seniority, not performance.
    No one denied that. A lot of teachers were let go. The process, which is not decribed anywhere I can fine, ususally starts with under performing teachers, because they have cause to let them go. Some places ask for those who are considering retiring to do so (we did(, and then it is last in first to go. This is true with and without unions. And there are good reasons for this type of policy.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    How do you objectively determine which teachers are performing well and should be kept, and which are mediocre and should be the first let go?
    Your making it seem harder than what it really is. Student grades and test scores would be a determining factor. The students of a lousy teacher will have lousy grades and test scores.
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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Your making it seem harder than what it really is. Student grades and test scores would be a determining factor. The students of a lousy teacher will have lousy grades and test scores.
    Since the tests are on-level exams, what if the majority of the class is NOT on level? Therefore, they're going to fail. Is that the current teacher's fault?


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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Sacramento ‘Teacher of the Year’ laid off




    Work hard, excel at what you do, contribute to society, and get laid off anyway.

    Ain't it great?
    fortunately we have the republican party to support education and help put a stop to this sort of thing.

    Oh wait.

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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No one denied that. A lot of teachers were let go. The process, which is not decribed anywhere I can fine, ususally starts with under performing teachers, because they have cause to let them go. Some places ask for those who are considering retiring to do so (we did(, and then it is last in first to go. This is true with and without unions. And there are good reasons for this type of policy.

    According to the article the layoffs are based purely on seniority, not performance. So if any poor performing teachers were let go before Michelle Apperson it was due to the fact they had less seniority that Michelle Apperson, not because they were lousy teachers.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    They should have laid off other teachers, but when money is tight layoffs need to happen
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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Since the tests are on-level exams, what if the majority of the class is NOT on level? Therefore, they're going to fail.
    Is that the current teacher's fault?
    Yes. Its the fault of that teacher and the fault of every teacher and school administrator responsible for passing failing students. I do not know about the schools in your state but most of the schools in my state the students have different teachers for different subjects even in some of the elementary schools. So its not just one teacher being responsible for all the grades and test scores that all her students make.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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