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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Sacramento ‘Teacher of the Year’ laid off

    Work hard, excel at what you do, contribute to society, and get laid off anyway. Ain't it great?
    It is a shame that the Union contracts go just by seniority. A mediocre/lousy teacher will keep their job while teacher of the year gets laid off, thanks teaches union.
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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhapsody1447 View Post
    California = #1 in educational spending.
    The latest Census data actually shows that California ranked 30th in per pupil expenditures in its elementary and secondary schools. It also ranked below the national average. This data can be found on page xiii (p.15 on the .pdf) at: http://www2.census.gov/govs/school/09f33pub.pdf
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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

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    Right, so we can blame every problem in the country on your subjective causation of a recession that ended 4 years ago! That's a beautiful propaganda tool you've got there. Good Job!
    The recession ended four years ago! Wow, I had no idea. Let's celebrate our full employment, our increase in disposable income, and our new economic security! Why lay off teachers when the classrooms are already overflowing? Hire more, now that the recession is over. Let's re hire the laid off cops and firefighters while we're at it.
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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    It is a shame that the Union contracts go just by seniority. A mediocre/lousy teacher will keep their job while teacher of the year gets laid off, thanks teaches union.
    It's a shame you didn't read this thread before posting. That issue was already brought up, discussed, and found wanting.
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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Last in first out, it is the union way!
    Um, the article says she is a veteran teacher and her page says she's been teaching for over 10 years. What are you talking about?
    Last edited by ThePlayDrive; 06-16-12 at 12:01 PM. Reason: accuracy

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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Um, the article says she is a veteran teacher and her page says she's been teaching for over 10 years. What are you talking about?
    Reading is for the mental, I mean, fundamental. I did say union, but in this case, it is ALSO state law personnel policy. A snipette from the OP source follows:

    "The Sacramento City Unified School District has suffered approximately $143 million in budget cuts in recent years. School spokesperson Gabe Ross told News 10 that who gets laid off is mandated by state law and is based on seniority, not performance."

    Now, is it clear to you, that seniority and NOT performance is the deal?
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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Um, the article says she is a veteran teacher and her page says she's been teaching for over 10 years. What are you talking about?
    And? Why was she selected then? Union rules are first in, first out. So likely, the remaining teachers have over 10 years teaching time. Perfect example of why that concept is absolutely destructive. You fire the teacher of the year (assuming the criteria here means she really is a great teacher) for others who didn't make the cut. Based on her performance, she SHOULD be the most protected for these layoffs. In addition, why didn't the teachers and their union offer pay and benefits concessions to avoid these layoffs? Isn't a slight reduction of pay and bennies better than laying off in mass? Well, guess not for the teachers who have seniority.

    Hmmm...maybe if they scrap that stupid high speed train that NO ONE will ride, they can save these teachers jobs. The CA budget is an overflow of waste and cut outs for the various left leaning special interest groups or their causes. The worst their fiscal house gets, the more the "obligation" to these interest groups/causes begin to conflict. This is a perfect example.

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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It's a shame you didn't read this thread before posting. That issue was already brought up, discussed, and found wanting.
    The POLICY is the same just that, in this case, it is STATE LAW, rather than union policy, that dictates SENIORITY, not performance, be used as THE layoff criteria. ;-)
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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The recession ended four years ago! Wow, I had no idea. Let's celebrate our full employment, our increase in disposable income, and our new economic security! Why lay off teachers when the classrooms are already overflowing? Hire more, now that the recession is over. Let's re hire the laid off cops and firefighters while we're at it.
    The recession ended over 3 years ago, that doesn't mean that state and local governments aren't experiencing budget constraints. You seem to be ignoring the technical definition of Recession and substituting your own.

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