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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    So unfair to accuse teachers of shirking; most of them are among the most hard-working and dedicated professionals I know. And they take their work home with them, unlike those lucky enough to leave it at the office at closing time. None of my kids' teachers ever left at 3 sharp.
    In California they're working on the kids......sexually. One was even feeding the kids semen topped cookies.

    L.A. school reeling from arrest of second teacher

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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    In California they're working on the kids......sexually. One was even feeding the kids semen topped cookies.

    L.A. school reeling from arrest of second teacher

    Workin hard!
    How is this relevant? Clearly you understand this is a rare circumstance out of the millions of teachers in the US.

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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    Yet what is not a rare occurrence is kids dropping out high school. What is not a rare occurrence, is kids graduating without a sufficient reading level.
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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Comfort Food View Post
    How is this relevant? Clearly you understand this is a rare circumstance out of the millions of teachers in the US.
    Ex-California teacher who moved in with student arrested on 1998 molestation charge

    Fmr. OC Teacher Arrested for Molestation, Child Porn

    Clovis teacher arrested in student molest case

    Ramona High School teacher's aide arrested for molestation

    La Mirada Substitute Teacher Arrested for Molestation

    Reedley Man is Arrested for Allegedly Molesting a Student


    These are just from 2012.......so far looking. Once a month isn't a rare occurrence. Lay them all off and use internet based learning with a classroom proctor. The top 20% can go to a charter school with live teachers.
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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Why is it that the students have no stake? Could it be the misguided practice of moving problem kids along through the grade system regardless of whether or not they have mastered the skill supposedly taught?

    You teachers helped create this monster, then want to sit back and not take ANY responsibility at all, but rather blame parents, blame even the minor student, but when it comes to the teachers responsibility I guess the answer is like the old sit com, Chico and the man, 'It's not my job, man!'

    Well it damned well IS your job, and you shirk your duties, and bitch and moan that $50K isn't enough money, and 10 weeks in the summer, with every conceivable holiday, along with at least 2 teacher 'in service' days per month, and to work at 7, GONE at 3 sharp is too much to ask in teaching the kids, and it's their fault?

    What a joke.

    People are fed the hell up with you lib public sector, pampered crybabies, and they aren't going to take much more of it I tell ya.

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    No, it's because the law, NCLB, says they have no stake. The results mean nothing to them.

    J, you have no real understanding of the problem. Like too many, you have listen to the uninformed and reach a mistaken conclusion. You don't really know what my job is, or how to measure my effectiveness. But that doesn't stop you running off on wild rants.

    Now, the fact is teachers should be held responsibile. But you have to hold them responsibile for what they are responsible for. That is knowing their subject matter, having a clear plan to present that amterial, being open to answering questions, giving feedback, and trying to reach as many as they can. A Boxer has a coach, but when the boxer steps into the ring, the boxer is on his own. Like a boxer and a coach, the relationship between educator and student requires both.

    Now, as we're dealing a lot with children, parents also play a role, as does the community, and our society. Somehow some of you have reduced a mult-prolbem issue down to one and only one element. Logically, this is silly.

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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    Have you thought this through? A classroom proctor still provides local contact. And you can't expect children to learn the same via internet based learning. You're basically advocating for destroying the quality of education for children in America because of some strange fascination with sexual molestation. Do you have a bad history with this that is tainting your judgement?

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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, it's because the law, NCLB, says they have no stake. The results mean nothing to them.

    J, you have no real understanding of the problem. Like too many, you have listen to the uninformed and reach a mistaken conclusion. You don't really know what my job is, or how to measure my effectiveness. But that doesn't stop you running off on wild rants.

    Now, the fact is teachers should be held responsibile. But you have to hold them responsibile for what they are responsible for. That is knowing their subject matter, having a clear plan to present that amterial, being open to answering questions, giving feedback, and trying to reach as many as they can. A Boxer has a coach, but when the boxer steps into the ring, the boxer is on his own. Like a boxer and a coach, the relationship between educator and student requires both.

    Now, as we're dealing a lot with children, parents also play a role, as does the community, and our society. Somehow some of you have reduced a mult-prolbem issue down to one and only one element. Logically, this is silly.
    You mention MANY things that are beyond the control of the teachers, yet they are beyond the control of the TAXPAYERS too. What the taxpayer CAN control is the amount spent on the public eduction SYSTEM, which has decided to remove teachers to cut costs. The amount spent PER PUPIL has increased DRASTICALLY with no improvement in student performance; at some point, like NOW, many are saying enough, is enough, and demanding something be done. If you can point to a BETTER solution, that preserves funding for teachers, improves education for students and still costs no more, then PLEASE let us hear it. To assert that public educaton funding PER STUDENT has not gotten WAY out of control, ignores reality.
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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Comfort Food View Post
    In what world do you see this as a solution to the problem?
    It would not be a solution to anything, but it would be an education for Ockham.
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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Comfort Food View Post
    Have you thought this through?


    Of course not.
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    Re: Teacher of the year is laid off.

    Parents are still ultimately to blame.

    Public education is one of the few examples where the private sector dropped the ball the public sector is being forced to pick up.

    My generation should've never become parents. It's sad to think that if I had a kid right out of high school, they'd be entering high school now. I would pity that child. He or she would be surrounded by children who are crippled by their upbringings.

    Money is not the answer to education. It never was. Attitude is.

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