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    Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Your lord and savior Reagan did it. Conservatives really are hypocrites.
    and it didn't work. So lets keep repeating our same mistake. I won't call Democrats/Liberals hyporcrites on this issue. I will say they are plainly ignoring the issue and have no real answers to solve the illegal immigration problems.
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    Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Tell you what. If you think I'm off topic, report me, otherwise deal with it. Pointing out the hypocrisy of the right decrying this as horrible all the while supporting a president from the right that did exactly that is not offtopic.

    It amazes me everytime to see the right crying about something the Obama adminstration does that a revered previous president have done. The right voted for Reagan TWICE, that's support.
    Are you referring the amnesty bill that passed Congress? An EO now equals a passed bill? Really?
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    Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post

    And don't you love how the Associate Press refers to them as "certain immigrants" in the headline, instead of illegal immigrants?
    I believe the term 'certain immagrants' is used because this applies to immagrants brought into the USA as children, rather than by their own free will.
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    Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants

    i don't have a problem with this. it ensures that kids dragged here by their parents and who have grown up American won't be deported. they have to be younger than 30, have a high school diploma, and a clean criminal record.

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    Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants

    Republicans have lurched so far to the right the debates between Reagan and G HW Bush would not be framed within the bounds of the current immigration debate. The paragons of conservatism would now be RINOs. They should really stop evoking such imagery and instead use George Wallace or John Birch. The right is overrun by conservative christian racists.

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    Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants

    In some regard the matter is a practical one in that as a conservative I've supported the notion that we can't (As a practical matter) just deport children born here as a matter of law they are American's, so something has to be done for them, but what I do not support is granting amnesty without those waiting in line and paying the fees that are associated with citizenship. You can't just go deporting all illegals and their children, and frankly upstanding "illegal immigrants" are not the problem. It's the one's that came here illegally and continue down that illegal path.

    1. Shut down the border, and mean shut it down.
    2. Provide a path for all working and otherwise upstanding individuals a way to become legal but at the back of the line.
    3. Give them six months to register themselves and their families, and if they don't they go regardless of whether they had children here.

    It's fair, and reasonable for everyone involved.

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    Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomfoolery View Post
    Republicans have lurched so far to the right the debates between Reagan and G HW Bush would not be framed within the bounds of the current immigration debate. The paragons of conservatism would now be RINOs. They should really stop evoking such imagery and instead use George Wallace or John Birch. The right is overrun by conservative christian racists.

    Looking at issues as left and right through rose colored glasses isn't going to gain you any credibility on DP, cookie. You're remark could be construed as a general ad hom, and in a rational discussion on this issue is tarnished by labels you perceive or place on members at DP without any knowledge of their actual views on the subject. I suggest coming to these threads with an open mind, not one filled with self indignation.


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    Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    It amazes me everytime to see the right crying about something the Obama adminstration does that a revered previous president have done. The right voted for Reagan TWICE, that's support.
    I seem to recall that the immigration passed through congress with the promise that democrats would actually do something to prevent the illegal immigration from continuing. They didn't. It actually got worse. Now it seems you want to do it again, not having learned anything.

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    Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Tell you what. If you think I'm off topic, report me, otherwise deal with it. Pointing out the hypocrisy of the right decrying this as horrible all the while supporting a president from the right that did exactly that is not offtopic.

    It amazes me everytime to see the right crying about something the Obama adminstration does that a revered previous president have done. The right voted for Reagan TWICE, that's support.
    Reagan elected 1980
    Reagan elected 1984
    Immigration amnesty passes both houses of Congress and signed 1986.

    Yep, voted twice in support of something that happened after the fact. And again, an EO doesn't equal a bill that passes both houses and signed into law.

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    Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Your lord and savior Reagan did it. Conservatives really are hypocrites.
    I wonder why he did? Because rat bastard Democrats convinced him that if he did it, it would never be needed again. They told him the bill would include funding for the border, to prevent more from coming. And as usual, conservatives are stupid enough to believe the stupid excuses to compromise.

    You are right though. Conservatives should stop compromising.
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