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    North Dakota voters to decide on abolishing property tax

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    North Dakota voters will decide Tuesday on the ultimate tax revolt: abolishing the property tax altogether. A citizen-led petition drive has put the daring, all-or-nothing proposal before the voters in a state flush with tax revenue, jobs and prosperity generated by an oil boom.

    North Dakota voters to decide on abolishing property tax
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    Re: North Dakota voters to decide on abolishing property tax

    It would be a mistake to abolish the (local) property tax since all the local services (schools, police and fire protection for example) depend on that tax. Rather than make localities dependent on the state for money to fund local services, they should be voting to eliminate the state income taxes.
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    Re: North Dakota voters to decide on abolishing property tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    It would be a mistake to abolish the (local) property tax since all the local services (schools, police and fire protection for example) depend on that tax. Rather than make localities dependent on the state for money to fund local services, they should be voting to eliminate the state income taxes.
    good points... and it's what Alaska did when it found itself some prosperity... they did away with the state income tax.

    I can't find any hard and fast details... we might be looking at a case where property taxes still exist in incorporated localities, but do not exist in unincorporated areas... I just don't know.



    oh nevermind, i just found some details...it did include local property taxes.... and it is being reported that amendment was defeated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    It would be a mistake to abolish the (local) property tax since all the local services (schools, police and fire protection for example) depend on that tax. Rather than make localities dependent on the state for money to fund local services, they should be voting to eliminate the state income taxes.
    I totally agree. At first becoming a home owner a decade ago, I thought abolishing property taxes was the way to go. But, the more years that went by, and the more years to think rationally about it, I've come to realize that property taxes, which are as local of a tax as you can get, are the least evil of all of the taxes that I pay. I would much rather have my local county, township and school district run on local property taxes than, say a sales tax or income tax increase that would be distributed by the state, at their discretion, regardless of needs.

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    Re: North Dakota voters to decide on abolishing property tax

    property taxes are infinitely more just than income taxes... so yeah, they should have shot for getting rid of income taxes

    a missed opportunity for sure...

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    Re: North Dakota voters to decide on abolishing property tax

    Okay, no emergency responders of any type for that state. No public services of any type. Clever people...not! Thank goodness my state is a "progressive" state!
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    Re: North Dakota voters to decide on abolishing property tax

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    This kind of prosperity could be going on across America if Obama wasnít so anti fossil fuel and blue states that use so much fossil fuel wouldnít refuse to drill in their own back yards. We could be in a boom instead of a bust, nice work left wingers


    North Dakota voters will decide Tuesday on the ultimate tax revolt: abolishing the property tax altogether. A citizen-led petition drive has put the daring, all-or-nothing proposal before the voters in a state flush with tax revenue, jobs and prosperity generated by an oil boom.

    North Dakota voters to decide on abolishing property tax
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    Re: North Dakota voters to decide on abolishing property tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie1 View Post
    Okay, no emergency responders of any type for that state. No public services of any type. Clever people...not! Thank goodness my state is a "progressive" state!
    there is really no need to reach into the realm of absurdity...

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    Re: North Dakota voters to decide on abolishing property tax

    Just had the tax assessor come by today, actually. Know what they told me? When property values go down, mill rates go up. When property values increase, mill rates go down.


    Long story short, the people who depend on you tax dollars to get paid, are also the people who decide how, and how MUCH of those tax dollars to collect.

    Meaning? Those folks aint ever NOT gonna get paid, not matter what sorta silken blind fold they pull over your eyes. No income tax? Fine. They'll just increase the sales tax. No propert tax? No problem, just increase the sales AND income tax. No property tax? No issue, just hike up the mill rates on property taxes.

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    Re: North Dakota voters to decide on abolishing property tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    there is really no need to reach into the realm of absurdity...
    It's standard operating procedure. You mention cutting a tax, they jump straight to emergency services as if there's no pork that could be trimmed. They can't help but lie, it's the reason for their existence.

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