Page 5 of 8 FirstFirst ... 34567 ... LastLast
Results 41 to 50 of 80

Thread: North Dakota voters to decide on abolishing property tax

  1. #41
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Where they have FOX on in bars and restaurants
    Last Seen
    09-14-14 @ 02:09 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    14,700

    Re: North Dakota voters to decide on abolishing property tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Hikertrash View Post
    How many jobs would become available and how many people do you think are willing to leave their homes and family to work and live on a off shore oil rig? Certainly not enough to lower the unemployment ranks significantly.

    Yours is a pipe dream.
    Speaking of pipes, PUT YOURS DOWN!

  2. #42
    Professor
    Billy the Kid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Last Seen
    05-28-13 @ 02:29 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    2,449

    Re: North Dakota voters to decide on abolishing property tax

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    This kind of prosperity could be going on across America if Obama wasn’t so anti fossil fuel and blue states that use so much fossil fuel wouldn’t refuse to drill in their own back yards. We could be in a boom instead of a bust, nice work left wingers


    North Dakota voters will decide Tuesday on the ultimate tax revolt: abolishing the property tax altogether. A citizen-led petition drive has put the daring, all-or-nothing proposal before the voters in a state flush with tax revenue, jobs and prosperity generated by an oil boom.

    North Dakota voters to decide on abolishing property tax

    JMO, but when taxpayers are offered the opportunity to get rid of a tax, they do. There are probably better taxes to cut, but this tells a story.

  3. #43
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Where they have FOX on in bars and restaurants
    Last Seen
    09-14-14 @ 02:09 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    14,700

    Re: North Dakota voters to decide on abolishing property tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    JMO, but when taxpayers are offered the opportunity to get rid of a tax, they do. There are probably better taxes to cut, but this tells a story.
    "Why should anyone become homeless because they can't pay a tax"?

  4. #44
    Professor
    Billy the Kid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Last Seen
    05-28-13 @ 02:29 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    2,449

    Re: North Dakota voters to decide on abolishing property tax

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    "Why should anyone become homeless because they can't pay a tax"?

    They shouldn't.

  5. #45
    Guru
    Aberration's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Oregon
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 08:14 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    4,699

    Re: North Dakota voters to decide on abolishing property tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Hikertrash View Post
    How many jobs would become available and how many people do you think are willing to leave their homes and family to work and live on a off shore oil rig? Certainly not enough to lower the unemployment ranks significantly.

    Yours is a pipe dream.
    The pipe dream is to think that most people have any motivation to make their life and their childrens life better, instead of the bare minimum to survive. Which is why people wont do those jobs.

    I work in a different industry, but I travel similarly. 3-4 weeks out working, 10 days to 2 weeks home. We pay way better than the OEM, but we travel. Plenty of lay-offs to provide available people, but none want to work. They would rather be unemployed than travel.
    “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.”
    ― Thomas Jefferson

  6. #46
    Global Moderator
    Moderator

    Gina's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:42 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    31,915

    Re: North Dakota voters to decide on abolishing property tax

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    One thing to remember, the infrastructure work creats jobs so the oil jobs create satellite jobs. This is how the boom spreads out to all industry.
    But it's not all roses and champagne for the people already living in the state, as Fiddy has pointed out. Housing shortages, congested roads, people who can't afford new housing because it's priced for those with the new higher paying wages, or existing housing because of the increased demand. It takes time for the infrastructure to catch up and for those who already have jobs, their wages will have to rise, or they move because they cannot afford housing in those areas most greatly effected by the boom. Not everyone in a boom town, or state, has a positive view of it, for reasons like these.

    I'm not saying we shouldn't have economic growth, but it's not all good news and there are unforeseen consequences.
    Dalrymple said there’s a public misconception that North Dakota’s oil tax revenues can solve any budget challenges. The general fund budget can only collect up to $300 million in oil tax revenue, which is less than 10 percent of general fund expenditures, he said.
    And...

    North Dakota’s booming economy also means the state will be required to pick up a greater share of the costs of Medicaid. To sustain the current program, the state will need to make up $91 million in lost federal funds in the new biennium, Dalrymple said.
    And as you posted above to Fiddy:
    Sounds like the flood damage and growing pains sops the money up.
    It does sop up much of it,certainly to begin with, so the oil money is not the end all, be all to economic problems. Again, I'm not down on economic growth or developing industries, but to say it's all good, is a mistake.
    I don't attack my constituents. Bob is my constituent now.
    This is the important stuff. We can’t get lost in discrimination. We can’t get lost in B.S. We can’t get lost tearing each other down. I want to make a point here that no matter what you look like, where you come from, how you worship, who you love, how you identify, and yeah, how you run, that if you have good public policy ideas, if you are well qualified for office, bring those ideas to the table, because this is your America, too. This is our commonwealth of Virginia, too.
    Danica Roem - The nation's first openly transgender person elected to serve in a U.S. state legislature.

  7. #47
    Guru

    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Last Seen
    09-14-16 @ 12:48 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    4,415

    Re: North Dakota voters to decide on abolishing property tax

    Hello D P forums!

    Well its to bad the voters of ND will continue to RENT all property in thier state.

    if the bank cant get all your 30 years of payments, then the local tax collector will.

    (PS
    I own my home. And it cant be taken away........its an RV.

  8. #48
    Angry Former GOP Voter
    Fiddytree's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:07 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    25,690
    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    Hello D P forums!

    Well its to bad the voters of ND will continue to RENT all property in thier state.

    if the bank cant get all your 30 years of payments, then the local tax collector will.

    (PS
    I own my home. And it cant be taken away........its an RV.
    Dear 247ina,

    We thank you for your concern. We are quite fine with the current scenario in which we have a dependable source of revenues for our various programs and services. We are more than ok with the conservative philosophy that local government needs to be upheld against the State government control when possible. We also believe it in the best interest of our citizens to not be hit hard with sales taxes and other taxes which will harm more hard working North Dakotans than currently. The measure in question provided an interesting question but did not solve the burning questions about how to make the situation better rather than worse.

    We encourage you to continue your quest in property tax removal and maybe some day your state will have even the same amount of consideration for the measure that we had. However, seeing that as unlikely, do not call us serfs.

    Sincerely,

    North Dakota
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

  9. #49
    Professor
    Billy the Kid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Last Seen
    05-28-13 @ 02:29 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    2,449

    Re: North Dakota voters to decide on abolishing property tax

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Horse****. Alaska has oil. Alaska also has the largest debt/unfunded liabilities (pensions and such) vs GDP of all states and Alaska receives the most federal money per capita of all states. Alaska is the Greece of the US, not having enough income locally and depending on money transfers from the other 49 states. That is not prosperity, but living a lie in a dream world, much like the Greeks.

    I'm sure you get the "United" part of United States? We look out for each other. I would think anyone with a liberal lean would have jumped you like a mugger for saying Alaska is free loading on the other states, but I guess not.

  10. #50
    Sage
    Erod's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    North Texas
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:34 AM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    13,067

    Re: North Dakota voters to decide on abolishing property tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie1 View Post
    Okay, no emergency responders of any type for that state. No public services of any type. Clever people...not! Thank goodness my state is a "progressive" state!
    So why is your state broke, and North Dakota has hundreds of billions in surplus revenue?
    Last edited by Erod; 06-14-12 at 05:27 PM.

Page 5 of 8 FirstFirst ... 34567 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •