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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    He was entitled to use whatever force was needed to neutralize the attacker. He was not entitled to kill him out of anger or revenge. Now considering the circumstances, it is reasonable to give him a fair amount of leeway and I doubt the Father will be convicted of a crime. The point is that you don't get to throw out the law and start killing people just because child molestors are involved.

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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    Jury Nullification was made for this kind of thing.

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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    He was entitled to use whatever force was needed to neutralize the attacker. He was not entitled to kill him out of anger or revenge. Now considering the circumstances, it is reasonable to give him a fair amount of leeway and I doubt the Father will be convicted of a crime. The point is that you don't get to throw out the law and start killing people just because child molestors are involved.
    If it is your child, and/or you are stopping the commission of a violent crime, yes you do.
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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    That's the baseline, yes, but it doesn't necessarily cover what this guy did. Once he got to the point where his daughter is no longer in physical danger he didn't really have any legally defensible right to continue to beat the guy. Don't get me wrong, the guy deserved a beating, but it wasn't necessarily lawful.
    Yes, he should have tapped the man lightly on the shoulder and presented him with some applicable literature on the subject.

    Right after apologizing for the intrusion, mind you.
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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    He was entitled to use whatever force was needed to neutralize the attacker. He was not entitled to kill him out of anger or revenge. Now considering the circumstances, it is reasonable to give him a fair amount of leeway and I doubt the Father will be convicted of a crime. The point is that you don't get to throw out the law and start killing people just because child molestors are involved.
    INTENT is not there.

    Punishing him would only punish the child by taking away her father . . . he has an immense amount of guilt for killing him, I'm sure - and likely *having* the guilt even though the man was molesting his daughter is probably a layer of punishment that he shouldn't even have to endure. He's probably extremely emotionally conflicted - and I pray to god she's not conflicted, too, and somehow feeling she did something wrong.

    This scums loss of life isn't worth tearing this entire family apart *even more* than they are already torn. I think enough tragedy has happened over one man's perverted fixation on this child . . . and she should be allowed to now have a normal, healthy, happy childhood . . . you cannot have a normal, happy, healthy childhood when your father goes to jail for protecting you. What kind of a message would that send? Is that the message this child NEEDS to receive?

    No - it's not.

    Now - let's all walk away form this; and hope and pray we'll never EVER have to go through what they have gone through. Let's pray she doesnt' suffer more than she already has over this.
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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    He was entitled to use whatever force was needed to neutralize the attacker. He was not entitled to kill him out of anger or revenge. Now considering the circumstances, it is reasonable to give him a fair amount of leeway and I doubt the Father will be convicted of a crime. The point is that you don't get to throw out the law and start killing people just because child molestors are involved.
    You can use lethal force to stop a sexual assault.The child molester was sexually assaulting the little girl.The girl's father used lethal force to stop that child molester.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You can use lethal force to stop a sexual assault.The child molester was sexually assaulting the little girl.The girl's father used lethal force to stop that child molester.
    Indeed! She couldn't protect herself.

    If this was a rape-scenario (which has happened) and the victim killed the attacker (which has happened) no one would be expecting her to go to jail. . . I remember quite clearly; the scenario with the older woman shooting someone who was attacking her - he got a few steps outside her house and died . . . everyone praised her for taking him out.

    Or the mother who shot the **** who broke into her house and came after her and her child - shot him dead. SELF PROTECTION.

    Just because it's your child doesn't mean you don't have the right to PROTECT them the same way. The suggestion that you do NOT have the right is INSANE.

    The dude's lucky the Dad didn't go after him with a knife - or brass knuckles - or a gun - or in my house: a metal baseball bat.

    yep: I'd bash in someone's brains without a 2nd thought if someone was doing that to any of my kids . . . damn straight. Any DECENT parent would do no less.
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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    It's hard to fault him. But at the same time, if you go to prison for killing the abuser, you can't be involved with your child's healing process personally or on a daily basis. I think it's normal for a parent to want to harm somebody whom harms their child. But when the parent is in prison, I think it's equally normal that they wish they weren't there. They probably wish they were with their child protecting them or even calming them down at 2 am when they have nightmares.
    No jury in Texas would convict this man. In fact, I doubt any jury in the South would.
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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    If it is your child, and/or you are stopping the commission of a violent crime, yes you do.
    As I said earlier in the thread, I don't think I'd be thinking--I'd be reacting. If ever there were a crime of passion...!

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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    As I said earlier in the thread, I don't think I'd be thinking--I'd be reacting. If ever there were a crime of passion...!
    Yes. There is a reason we have protective instincts for our young, and they should be acted upon without prejudice.
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