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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    Reading the OP link it doesn't sound that sensational, just tragic.

    I think we can reasonably tell the difference between hitting someone to get them off your daughter, or beating them well past the point of getting the third person out of harms way. If he knocked him a few good times at it was enough to kill him, that's a tragedy. If the father just sat on the guy pummeling him into an unrecognizeable pulp, he's off into questionable legal territory.

    The daughter is best served by parents that keep an eye on her when in secluded situations with other men, and being trained as best as practical to avoid/handle such situations (of which I can't tell in this article). Being prepared to shove a bat up someones ass is far less effective at keeping your children safe. Don't make it out to be so noble to kill people, when the entire goal was to keep his daughter safe. Remember that attitude when your daughter was drunk and stumbled on to some gun-hill-billy's porch at night and gets shot out of "self defense". Priorites people.

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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    The father was totally justified in deadly force because, he was *standing in the shoes" of the person (his little girl) being attacked.

    The issue is....as an example *If* a criminal runs away, you cannot use deadly force to stop him, because you would no longer be *preventing* a crime. If use of deadly force is not necessary, or you use deadly force *after*....repeat *AFTER* the crime has stopped, you could be convicted of manslaughter.

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    you be right about bars. And the people in em.

    If the criminal runs away from a nonleathal attempt then I would agree with you. If was leathal on the other hand I hunt them down and finish it. They WERE are clear and present danger they ARE a clear and present danger. You cannot know if they are retreating to disengage or retreating to gain advantage. Military thought is to keep up the pressure and pursue, and force the opposition into a situation that gives you tactical advantage. As I said before taking unessary chances is foolish in leathal confrontations.

    I agree with you about the justification for the father. I would add that there is also another as well, which while not quite lawfull is practical. That being the perpetrator of the rape is the equivalent of a rabid dog or other known dangerous animal and it is in the interest of the familiy and the community at large for the perpetrator to be immeadiatly put down so as to eliminate the danger they pose. It is eminately, any way you see it, an act of presevation of the life of his daughter.
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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    We're not that far gone as a country. I can't think of of a single case in which a parent was charged or tried for protecting their child. . . this isn't the 2nd thought shooting of a downed robber in a pharmacy, here.
    As for not being prosecuted or sued because you live in the "good 'ol south" you're living in a fantasy. Where you live is NO guarantee against a prosecutor proceeding with a weak case; even if the states odds for success are small. There are myriad reasons the prosecution could proceed, none of which have to do with whether or not you were "right." Being on trial with your liberty at stake is not where you want to be.....

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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    After hitting repeatedly someone in the head and at some point, the individual is in a semi-unconscious state or no longer a threat....you stop

    To continue to beat someone that no longer is a threat...is criminal
    Perhaps he did stop, but the damage was already done.

    For what it's worth, I don't care if he beat this man unconscious, took a break, and then finished killing this scum. One thing for sure, this pervert won't be molesting any other children.

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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    As for not being prosecuted or sued because you live in the "good 'ol south" you're living in a fantasy. Where you live is NO guarantee against a prosecutor proceeding with a weak case; even if the states odds for success are small. There are myriad reasons the prosecution could proceed, none of which have to do with whether or not you were "right." Being on trial with your liberty at stake is not where you want to be.....
    Maybe it only took one hit. That's all it would take me, under the circumstances. Further, expecting the father to exercise restraint under those circumstances is simply inhuman.
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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Perhaps he did stop, but the damage was already done.

    For what it's worth, I don't care if he beat this man unconscious, took a break, and then finished killing this scum. One thing for sure, this pervert won't be molesting any other children.
    Your decision to use lethal force must be based on what the person is doing at the *precise time*....again at the PRECISE TIME you are actually using lethal force.

    If the alleged child molester were to put his hands up, and say I give up, you can't kill him just because of his previous acts.

    They must be based on what the BG is doing at the precise moment you apply deadly force.

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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Your decision to use lethal force must be based on what the person is doing at the *precise time*....again at the PRECISE TIME you are actually using lethal force.

    If the alleged child molester were to put his hands up, and say I give up, you can't kill him just because of his previous acts.

    They must be based on what the BG is doing at the precise moment you apply deadly force.
    Well, obviously he didn't put his hands up.
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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    Reading the OP link it doesn't sound that sensational, just tragic.

    I think we can reasonably tell the difference between hitting someone to get them off your daughter, or beating them well past the point of getting the third person out of harms way. If he knocked him a few good times at it was enough to kill him, that's a tragedy. If the father just sat on the guy pummeling him into an unrecognizeable pulp, he's off into questionable legal territory.

    The daughter is best served by parents that keep an eye on her when in secluded situations with other men, and being trained as best as practical to avoid/handle such situations (of which I can't tell in this article). Being prepared to shove a bat up someones ass is far less effective at keeping your children safe. Don't make it out to be so noble to kill people, when the entire goal was to keep his daughter safe. Remember that attitude when your daughter was drunk and stumbled on to some gun-hill-billy's porch at night and gets shot out of "self defense". Priorites people.
    meh, I don't think they should spend too much time splitting hairs over this. The police have not found any evidence that the father acted improperly.
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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    If someone beats his daughter's molester to death it is understandable, but he should go to jail for unlawful homicide. Vigilantism is illegal. Is there anything else to talk about on the matter?

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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomfoolery View Post
    If someone beats his daughter's molester to death it is understandable, but he should go to jail for unlawful homicide. Vigilantism is illegal. Is there anything else to talk about on the matter?
    You show a profound lack of understanding of both the law, and of morality. Vigilantism? really? Catching (in the act) a man molesting your daughter is vigilantism? ROTFLMAO.. Good thing there are no charges laid or if I were this guy I'd hope and pray dudes like you are not selected for jury duty.


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