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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

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    The law varies from state to state...county to county

    What's acceptable in one area could be your worst nightmare in another
    We're not that far gone as a country. I can't think of of a single case in which a parent was charged or tried for protecting their child. . . this isn't the 2nd thought shooting of a downed robber in a pharmacy, here.
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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Stopping the threat, yes.....killing him, no
    He won't victimize anyone ever again, so I'd say the threat has been effectively neutralized for good, since pedophiles don't ever stop being pedophiles. There's no way to prevent them from being the most vile of predators, with no hope of ever reform. If allowed to live, the pedophile will continue to victimize children again and again and again until they are no more, and should be exterminated with as much regard to any other pestilence.
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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    That's the baseline, yes, but it doesn't necessarily cover what this guy did. Once he got to the point where his daughter is no longer in physical danger he didn't really have any legally defensible right to continue to beat the guy. Don't get me wrong, the guy deserved a beating, but it wasn't necessarily lawful.
    I didn't see it in the CNN story but on another board I saw a copy and pasted text of the story, I don't know where it came from, that stated the father was punching the guy in the face while trying to pull his daughter away from him. The man died after that.

    I am not sure if the father punched him after he got the girl away from the man.

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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    I would have shoved a baseball bat up his ass, so the dude better feel lucky he didn't try it with my daughter. And believe, as improbable as it seems...I woulda MADE that bat fit...
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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I didn't see it in the CNN story but on another board I saw a copy and pasted text of the story, I don't know where it came from, that stated the father was punching the guy in the face while trying to pull his daughter away from him. The man died after that.

    I am not sure if the father punched him after he got the girl away from the man.
    That account makes things a little suspect


    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    I would have shoved a baseball bat up his ass, so the dude better feel lucky he didn't try it with my daughter. And believe, as improbable as it seems...I woulda MADE that bat fit...
    I don't think so

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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    The law varies from state to state...county to county

    What's acceptable in one area could be your worst nightmare in another
    I would do the time in this case. Considering the circumstances it is not like any jury is this country is going to give a long sentence. I doubt finding a job back home when you get released would be a problem.
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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    After hitting repeatedly someone in the head and at some point, the individual is in a semi-unconscious state or no longer a threat....you stop

    To continue to beat someone that no longer is a threat...is criminal
    Depends on what kind of threat they are. If they are a leathal threat then quite frankly the law be damned they be toast. That kind of thing would really only apply in a bar fight or some such similar situtation. If its an unknown I take the stance they are a leathal theat and deal with it as such, no quarter asked, no quarter granted.
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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Wrong. Once the threat has stopped *even if the person is still alive*.....you stop. You do not continue to beat, the individual until *said individual* is absolutely positively dead (excessive force)
    You have never been in combat then. And hopefully you never have to experiance it. It is utterly frightening. You have now idea how you will react till you are in it. No one should have to experiance it. No one should have to experiance taking a life justified or not. It is disturbing and it changes you. Sometimes though it is unfortunately a nessicerry evil.

    Once you engage me in lethal force one us is gona walk away, the other goes back to his mama in a body bag. I am not police I dont care about your rights. As far I am concerned once I percieve you as a lethal threat, I am GOING to ELIMINATE you permanatly. You do NOT take half measures when your life or the lives of yours are at stake. There is too much to lose. It will totally suck doing it, but to do otherwise risks too much.
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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Wrong. Once the threat has stopped *even if the person is still alive*.....you stop. You do not continue to beat, the individual until *said individual* is absolutely positively dead (excessive force)
    If they are still breathing they are positively still a threat. You would be amazed at how fragil and how tough a human body is. Taking unnessaray chances in life or death situtations is stupid.
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    Re: Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Depends on what kind of threat they are. If they are a leathal threat then quite frankly the law be damned they be toast. That kind of thing would really only apply in a bar fight or some such similar situtation. If its an unknown I take the stance they are a leathal theat and deal with it as such, no quarter asked, no quarter granted.
    The father was totally justified in deadly force because, he was *standing in the shoes" of the person (his little girl) being attacked.

    The issue is....as an example *If* a criminal runs away, you cannot use deadly force to stop him, because you would no longer be *preventing* a crime. If use of deadly force is not necessary, or you use deadly force *after*....repeat *AFTER* the crime has stopped, you could be convicted of manslaughter.

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