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    Re: 90 Percent of Chicago Teachers Authorize Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Filling an entire school districts worth of teaching positions within two months(and not caring about finding good teachers which you would have to do) is in no way realistic.
    They aren't going to be working anyway, so there's no loss. It's only prudent that their replacements be hired asap.

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    Re: 90 Percent of Chicago Teachers Authorize Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    You are correct. With the high income tax rates Illinois has, and the highest sales tax in the nation in Chicago itself, it would be difficult to lure any prospective teachers to the area.
    Sounds reasonable. Except it's not true. Teachers are standing in line for teaching positions all over the Chicago area.
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    Re: 90 Percent of Chicago Teachers Authorize Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Spaceman Spiff
    Normally I am supportive of labor unions, but the CTU's desire for an outrageous 24% pay increase followed with a 5% pay raise the following year is a bridge too far.
    This is dishonest. The CTU is fighting a pay cut in real terms.

    EDIT: There was also attempted intimidation of union members in the lead up to this vote.

    EDIT 2: Here's the Chicago Tribune article explaining a poll that supports the CTU:

    If teachers are going to teach longer hours, they should be paid more for it, the poll found. Sizable majorities of Chicago residents as a whole (86 percent) and public school parents (92 percent) agreed with that concept.

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    Re: 90 Percent of Chicago Teachers Authorize Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    This is dishonest. The CTU is fighting a pay cut in real terms.
    They're the highest paid in the state, and generally higher than the national average.
    Sometimes a pay cut is necessary.
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    Re: 90 Percent of Chicago Teachers Authorize Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Spaceman_Spiff View Post
    Normally I am supportive of labor unions, but the CTU's desire for an outrageous 24% pay increase followed with a 5% pay raise the following year is a bridge too far.
    They want a 20% "raise" to match the 20% increase in the length of the school day Emmanuel proposed and 4% to make up for the raise they didn't get last year because of mismanaged money. That's not even close to outrageous. If the city doesn't want to pay people to work a longer day, it shouldn't have a longer day especially when lengthening the day has no demonstrable effect on the quality of education. It's outrageous to think that you can tell people to work longer for free and then mismanage money to get out of it.

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    Re: 90 Percent of Chicago Teachers Authorize Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    They're the highest paid in the state, and generally higher than the national average.
    Sometimes a pay cut is necessary.
    If a pay cut was necessary, then Rahm Emmanuel shouldn't have proposed to lengthen the school day which would require him to pay teachers, administrators, etc. more than they get now.

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    Re: 90 Percent of Chicago Teachers Authorize Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Boring Bob View Post
    So... they're going to do what's best for the students by keeping them out of the classroom for extra months? Brilliant.
    There is so much misinformation in this thread that it is laughable.

    It's doubtful that a strike would last for months. Moreover, they haven't decided to strike, they authorized a strike in case one is necessary. And finally, strike days are always made up so that students don't lose a day of school.

    Edit: This thread is a breath of fresh air actually. Knowing how much of Chicago supports CTU and seeing it side by side with the lack of support with CTU here which is largely based on misinformation actually makes me optimistic that a lot of the anti-union nonsense on DP is not a reflection of much of the public.
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    Re: 90 Percent of Chicago Teachers Authorize Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque
    They're the highest paid in the state, and generally higher than the national average.
    Sometimes a pay cut is necessary.
    Changing the subject, I see.
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    Re: 90 Percent of Chicago Teachers Authorize Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    If a pay cut was necessary, then Rahm Emmanuel shouldn't have proposed to lengthen the school day which would require him to pay teachers, administrators, etc. more than they get now.
    It doesn't require that they're paid more.

    Have you ever worked a salaried job? There were several instances when I was asked to work over time as a salaried employee. It comes with the territory. These teachers are absolutely selfish, demanding well and above what most other educators across the country make...to provide an education ranked at the end of the spectrum.
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    Re: 90 Percent of Chicago Teachers Authorize Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Changing the subject, I see.
    Not at all. Is this your way of saying you can't refute my point?
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