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    Re: Obama says private sector 'doing fine,' then Standard & Poor keeps downgrade, neg

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Even President Obama back tracked and said the economy wasn't doing fine...

    When will you?



    UPDATE 2-Obama says it's clear US economy 'not doing fine' | Reuters

    Funny thing. Obama backtracked within 4 hours. Winston will stick with what he has said now even if Obama gave a prime time speech recanting.

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    Re: Obama says private sector 'doing fine,' then Standard & Poor keeps downgrade, neg

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Facts? Why because he says it in blue? Oh, almost forgot, he says it with malice, and in blue.....Certainly few links to where he is making his **** up, but thankfully we are not like the majority of American sheep, we on both sides pay more attention to news and current events. And from what I see he might as well post Cris Matthews scripts and be done with it.....Yawn!


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    I believe prosperity of the level I believe you're talking about is still years away but I also believe it has nothing to do with who will be president.
    No, I think the above is a fact, he does believe this, and moreover, I think he's right.

    Another inconvenient fact:

    5 of Reagan's budgets resulted in record breaking deficits
    I'm not sure we can attribute this one to Bush, but the fact is that the housing market is still in the dumps:

    Bush left Obama an economy that was completely broken structurely and no tools to fight it. The housing market, which is a large part of our economy, was in shambles and is still hurting.
    So, yes, there are some facts there, whether the font is in blue or not.
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    Re: Obama says private sector 'doing fine,' then Standard & Poor keeps downgrade, neg

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    whoaaaa ... we're talking about "record level" debt, why are you changing the topic?
    No reason, he's just trying to say "Republicans are awesome" and run away from the fact that Reagan overspent.


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    Re: Obama says private sector 'doing fine,' then Standard & Poor keeps downgrade, neg

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post

    Funny thing. Obama backtracked within 4 hours.
    Really? Obama said the private sector is not doing fine? Do you have a quote to that?

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    Re: Obama says private sector 'doing fine,' then Standard & Poor keeps downgrade, neg

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    No, I think the above is a fact, he does believe this, and moreover, I think he's right.

    Another inconvenient fact:



    I'm not sure we can attribute this one to Bush, but the fact is that the housing market is still in the dumps:



    So, yes, there are some facts there, whether the font is in blue or not.
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    Re: Obama says private sector 'doing fine,' then Standard & Poor keeps downgrade, neg

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Funny, only a true believer partisan would think a fellow traveler partisan is winning an argument based solely on opinion... j-mac
    Statements of facts should always be linked to a reliable news source. Opinions are like backsides, everybody's got one.
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    Re: Obama says private sector 'doing fine,' then Standard & Poor keeps downgrade, neg

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    No, I think the above is a fact, he does believe this, and moreover, I think he's right.

    Oh YOU think he's right? You do? Well, call the press, stop the country, and hit the airwaves with a "Breaking News" special report....Ditto agrees with Sheik Yerbuti on something....Man, I never saw that one coming..... Oh, and BTW, just because you agree with him doesn't make it fact either....

    I'm not sure we can attribute this one to Bush, but the fact is that the housing market is still in the dumps:
    And what was the reason behind that one? IIRC, at the time we were spending like wild on defense, pushing the USSR to do the same which ultimately caused them to fall. Remember context means everything. Just to say that Reagan raised the debt is not good enough. Now I know that libs didn't like the downfall of communism in the USSR, but I never knew how much until now...

    So, yes, there are some facts there, whether the font is in blue or not.
    Hmmm....Checking again....Nope, not a single link....So no, regardless of what you think Ditto, your opinion means opinion, not fact.

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    Re: Obama says private sector 'doing fine,' then Standard & Poor keeps downgrade, neg

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Debt on the scale we now have (over 100% of GDP) is a NEW thing. [...]
    No it's not. It's basically the SAME thing as 97% of GDP. You've simply adopted the stupid right wing talking point of claiming 98% is bad but 101% is certain death.

    Singapore is over 100%. Japan is over 200%. Look around, get some facts, wean off the right wing talk media teat.

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    Re: Obama says private sector 'doing fine,' then Standard & Poor keeps downgrade, neg

    "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." - John Adams

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