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Frustrated liberals want more from Obama [W:299]

Don't forget, the conservatives are all jealous that our "liberal" President has a Nobel Peace Prize.:2razz:

A mistaken case for Syrian regime change

"The blueprint for this project is essentially a report produced by the neo-conservative Brookings Institute for regime change in Iran in 2009. The report - "Which Path to Persia?" [3] - continues to be the generic strategic approach for US-led regime change in the region."
"The authors of these reports include, among others, John Hannah and Martin Indyk, both former senior neo-conservative officials from the George W Bush/Dick Cheney administration, and both advocates for regime change in Syria. "


Asia Times Online :: A mistaken case for Syrian regime change

"But the most obvious test of the president's claim that we're not really engaged in an act of war is to ask: What if the shoe were on the other foot? Let's say a coalition of foreign forces was bombing American cities and killing our citizens with the intent to overthrow our political leadership. How would we respond to an argument by one party to that assault that their use of unmanned weapons to kill Americans shouldn't be deemed an engagement of hostilities with us? Merely to pose the question is to understand the utter preposterousness of the administration's position. The administration's real goal, since it almost certainly would have received congressional approval for war in Libya had it sought it from the beginning, appears to be to extend the principle that when it comes to war and "national security" (increasingly broadly defined), the executive branch should be unconstrained to act as it sees fit. As James Fallows has written, "after three months of combat, and after several decades of drift toward unilateral Executive Branch action on matters of war and peace, Obama is doing a disservice to the nation, history, and himself by insisting that the decision should be left strictly to him."


For all of you convinced the Arab Spring is "spontaneous".

"What then is the new anatomy of the great game? In the past, color revolutions were largely blueprinted in the offices of the political consultancies of "K" Street in Washington. But in the new format, the "technicians" attempting to shape the region [2] , hail directly from the US government: according to reports by senior official sources in the region, Jeffrey Feltman, a former ambassador in Lebanon, and presently assistant secretary of state, as chief coordinator [3], together with two former US ambassadors, Ron Schlicher and David Hale, who is also the new US Middle East Peace Envoy. "

Asia Times Online :: The 'great game' in Syria

Asia Times Online :: The shadow war in Syria

Obama and Libya: From hopemonger to warmonger
Obama and Libya: From hopemonger to warmonger | Jonathan Weiler | Independent Weekly

Apparently so. Enough to rescind their shipment of attack helicopters to Syria, at least.

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The problem is most TV mimicks Fox News using govmnt/mouthpieces and establishment voices when discussing major issues like the war on Libya, Pakistan, Afghanistan, if they cover it at all.

The most egregious fraud of the American TV/Radio is of course, the sins of omission. It didn't happen and therefore never makes into the day-to-day national psyche.

When a major publication like the Viilage Voice was bought off by a big corporation or Huffington by AOL, and the public outcry is silenced, when media mergers create a huge backlash against state propaganda, one that is seldom heard, a lot of people lose faith in the system of democracy and free speech.
 
And nowhere did I make that claim. Read it and see for yourself.

I said it was legal and therefor permitted. If B.H. Obama is a Marxist, and it seems likely he is, what's wrong with that?

Obama: “I Chose My Friends Carefully… Marxist Professors and Structural Feminists” | The American Pundit

I repeat:
It was and is disingenuous and hyperbolic stuff (in relation to anything to do with Obama).


Obama appears to be nothing of the kind. Reading stupid **** and accepting stupid **** doesn't make any of it real.
 
I repeat:
It was and is disingenuous and hyperbolic stuff (in relation to anything to do with Obama).


Obama appears to be nothing of the kind. Reading stupid **** and accepting stupid **** doesn't make any of it real.

Perhaps you don't know that the quotes I used are actually Barry Obama\s own words.

You should have done more vetting on this guy.

Can you explain why quoting BHO himself is "dangerous and hyperbolic"?
 
Perhaps you don't know that the quotes I used are actually Barry Obama\s own words.

You should have done more vetting on this guy.

Can you explain why quoting BHO himself is "dangerous and hyperbolic"?

Doesn't change a thing. Those who buy this nonsense have issues IMHO. ;)
 
What doesn't change a thing?

Why is quoting Barack Obama "dangerous and hyperbolic"?

It's not the quote, it's the silly interpretation of the quotes.
 
I was wondering when the disingenuous and hyperbolic Marxist stuff would return. [...]
Being a Marxist is perfectly legal [...]
I never said it was illegal. I said it was a disingenuous and hyperbolic stuff (in relation to anything to do with Obama).
And nowhere did I make that claim. Read it and see for yourself. I said it was legal and therefor permitted. [...]
Amazing
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Don't feed, folks... that brick wall will never fall.
 
As the story goes, a group of Canadians offered their Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, a bona fide large "C" Conservative, for Obama. Straight up. The American contingent was about to accept the trade when the Canadians got greedy and tried to unload Celine Dion with Harper. Buggered the deal.
I have what you will mistake for good news: We will not see Obama's like again.
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I do hope you are right. The one term Marxist flexible president Barrack Hussein Obama is more than the nation can bear more than once.
 
I do hope you are right. The one term Marxist flexible president Barrack Hussein Obama is more than the nation can bear more than once.

Your statement is more than the nation can bear reading more than once.

Are you really so childish that you think using his middle-name is some sort of argument? Do you have some futuristic predicting powers that you can automatically determine he is a one-term President, too? I may not agree with his politics but, it's time to grow up.
 
I do hope you are right. The one term Marxist flexible president Barrack Hussein Obama is more than the nation can bear more than once.

:lol: how long can we make the president's title?
 
Your statement is more than the nation can bear reading more than once.

Are you really so childish that you think using his middle-name is some sort of argument? Do you have some futuristic predicting powers that you can automatically determine he is a one-term President, too? I may not agree with his politics but, it's time to grow up.
I use his entire name. Why do you object to his name?
Predictions are predictions. I predict that the Marxist will only harass and hound the American people for one term.
I do agree that you should grow up.
 
:lol: how long can we make the president's title?
What part would you have me leave out?
One term? I think I will keep it.
Marxist? That has to stay. He is a hard core Marxist, dangerous to the nation, destructive of liberty and our freedoms.
flexible? After the election that disgusting SOB will be more flexible in his treason with the former Soviet Union. It stays.
president? That can go in five more months.
 
Woops, it's stuck again, someone push the reset button.

The one term Marxist flexible president Barrack Hussein Obama
the one term Marxist flexible president Barrack Hussein Obama
the one term Marxist flexible president Barrack Hussein Obama.
the one term Marxist flexible president Barrack Hussein Obama.
the one term Marxist flexible president Barrack Hussein Obama.
the one term Marxist flexible president Barrack Hussein Obama.
the one term Marxist flexible president Barrack Hussein Obama.
the one term Marxist flexible president Barrack Hussein Obama.
the one term Marxist flexible president Barrack Hussein Obama.
 
What part would you have me leave out?
One term? I think I will keep it.
Marxist? That has to stay. He is a hard core Marxist, dangerous to the nation, destructive of liberty and our freedoms.
flexible? After the election that disgusting SOB will be more flexible in his treason with the former Soviet Union. It stays.
president? That can go in five more months.

No, I want more!

don't forget communist, muslim, black nationalist christian, evil, manchurian candidate, etc! If you are going to do it man, go full steam!
 
We will not see Obama's like again.

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Are you saying we won't see another politician who is pro-choice, anti-gun, who has raised taxes, and has created a government healthcare system?

Romney signed anti-gun legislation as governor.
Romney raised taxes as governor.
Romney campaigned as a pro-choice candidate.
Romney created RomneyCare.
 
No, I want more!

don't forget communist, muslim, black nationalist christian, evil, manchurian candidate, etc! If you are going to do it man, go full steam!
Marxist is more accurate.
He claims he is not Muslim although the morning call to prayer is the sweetest sound according to him.
I do believe he accepts and embraces Black Liberation theology. In my opinion that theology is evil.
Manchurian candidate? He, like other tyrants before him have told us what he intended to do. He is a devious, lying politician. I cannot tell if another nation set him up as a sleeper or a mole.

I will stay with my formulation.
 
How do you think they should be interpreted? Do you feel BHO didn't express himself clearly enough?
Out of curiosity, and suspecting I'd find shennanigans, I researched your quote. You wrote:


The entire quote is:

To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night, in the dorms, we discussed necolonialism, Franz Fanon, Eurocentrism, and patriarchy. When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpet or set our stereos so loud that the walls began to shake, we were resisting bourgeois society’s stifling constraints. We weren’t indifferent or careless or insecure. We were alienated. But this strategy alone couldn’t provide the distance I wanted, from Joyce or my past. After all, there were thousands of so-called campus radicals, most of them white and tenured and happily tolerated. No, it remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.

FactCheck.org : Obama’s ‘Dreams of My Father’
The introductory clause, in bold, would seem to be operative in understanding the actions described in that paragraph. Furthermore, I would see it as intellectually stimulating to seek out the types of people he mentioned, to discuss various ideas and ideologies while testing and measuring your own. However, for, say, a straight-jacketed xenophobe educated on a steady diet of propaganda, I can see where such associations would cause irrational fear.
 
[...] He claims he is not Muslim although the morning call to prayer is the sweetest sound according to him. [...]
First, let's examine the logic of that. If someone thinks the morning call to prayer is the sweetest sound, that means they are a Muslim. As opposed to, say, being appreciative of fine arts, such as music. Oookay.

Second, let's examine the accuracy of that. The real quote is: " Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.” " (source). One of. Not the. But really, other than exposing the usual right wing hyperbole and unfamiliarity with accuracy, who cares?

Looks like fail on three counts: 1) Logic, 2) accuracy, and 3) Why would anyone give a ****?
 
I use his entire name. Why do you object to his name?
Predictions are predictions. I predict that the Marxist will only harass and hound the American people for one term.
I do agree that you should grow up.

Do you say George Walker Bush? Do you say William Jefferson Clinton? Probably not.

You use his full name almost as a ploy to somehow discredit him because it sounds Muslim. News flash, Mister, you can be Muslim AND be President. Shocking I know! There's no restriction on religion to be President! Imagine that.
 
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